CAL JAN Class Breakdowns

[capt. megadeth]

Seriously...id hope people at the majors dont care about this ....kind of a 'kiddie table' issue isnt it?

just curious

They don't.....I know one guy from GoJets at FedEx, one just went to SWA and one just got hired at UPS.

 

[redbook]

They don't.....I know one guy from GoJets at FedEx, one just went to SWA and one just got hired at UPS.

Plenty do.

Despite one gojet pilot here, one there. You can claim you speak for all pilots at those airlines, but plenty do care.

 

[Motive Flow]

They don't.....I know one guy from GoJets at FedEx, one just went to SWA and one just got hired at UPS.

Don't you mean "United Express?"

 

[pkober]

Uniform,

I thought it took you ten years to hear if you were hire!!!

 

[Uniform Shop]

Uniform,

I thought it took you ten years to hear if you were hire!!!

Can you believe that 10 years ago we were working at TWA. Insane!!!

Now I'm a Married, father of two, broke major airline pilot on second year pay. The progression is exactly what I expected. :nuts:

 

[Smarta$$]

dang Not 1 Single Pinnacle Alum....what up wit that!!
With all the upgrading going on I thought I would see at least 1.

I have heard 1-2 in the crew room lately that had accepted a CAL offer.

 

[Smarta$$]

Not completely true.

I was dh'ing home and was talking with a couple of TransMeridian pilots. They were about to be furloughed, b/c TM was about to close it's doors. They were both previous TWA. Both had extensive experience, but were about to lose their jobs. One mentioned a upcoming interview w/ GoJets as a street CA. He wasnt exactly happy about it, in fact, i would say he looked borderline depressed. How can you judge this guy for trying to keep food on the table?

Will he cross a picketline, i dont know. But not everyone who went to GoJets is a SJS 500 hr wonderpilot.

Flame on.

Being more expeirienced pilot does not make it right. They got screwed and screwed another pilot in return. I do feel bad for them, but you can't use your misfortune to justify screwing someone else. Two wrongs don't make a right.

 

[capt. megadeth]

Plenty do.

Despite one gojet pilot here, one there. You can claim you speak for all pilots at those airlines, but plenty do care.

I'm talking about the HR departments.

 

[El Pobre]

Interesting hiring numbers. I was DHing on CAL about a month ago and reading the magazine in the back of the seat, and there was an article from the CEO talking about the appreciation of all of the military pilots at CAL and those that were deployed. He made a HUGE point about how over 50 percent of all CAL pilots were prior military and that they drew from military.

Not getting into the well beaten mil vs civ background here, but the contrast between the CEO's article and the hiring backgrounds listed here is very interesting.

Also....let's not get down on the GoJets guy. Is flying an airbus for $65/hr any worse than flying an RJ for $19/hr...I think not.....

We all need to demand a minimum wage for pilots.....no FO flies for less than the lowest paid full time TSA agent checking your bags.

My rant is over, although I'd be interested if someone at CAL could get ahold of that article which was in your December in-flight magazine and post it here

 

[ACWild]

No need to post the article here. You summed it up just fine.

 

[BoilerUP]

I didn't intend to start any kind of anti-GoJet flame war. I've fought that battle in the past and moved on...but I haven't forgotten.

I just think its interesting somebody would list "United Express" as their former airline...because United Express, as an airline, does not exist.

 

[bssthound]

there was an article from the CEO talking about the appreciation of all of the military pilots at CAL and those that were deployed. He made a HUGE point about how over 50 percent of all CAL pilots were prior military and that they drew from military.

Not getting into the well beaten mil vs civ background here, but the contrast between the CEO's article and the hiring backgrounds listed here is very interesting.

A friend in my Reserve unit just got hired by CAL. He is a Comair Captain. The hiring numbers posted lead me to believe there could be some Guard, Reserve, or prior service folks listed by their current airlines, as opposed to military experience. Just my hypothesis.

 

[AJL5236]

Has there been any 135/91 guys that get on with CAL - other than the fractionals? Is it a long shot, looks like they looking for a 121 background...?

 

[LJDRVR]

Very few. Maybe one a month on average. If you want to fly at a a major airline, the best thing you can do to increase you chances is to go work at an airline.

 

[LJDRVR]

A friend in my Reserve unit just got hired by CAL. He is a Comair Captain. The hiring numbers posted lead me to believe there could be some Guard, Reserve, or prior service folks listed by their current airlines, as opposed to military experience. Just my hypothesis.

I hope you're on to something, but I don't think so. Ive been really surprised by the low amount of military we seem to be hiring here.

 

[ACWild]

I hope you're on to something, but I don't think so. Ive been really surprised by the low amount of military we seem to be hiring here.

Actually, a lot of the people that I've flown with have military backgrounds at some point in their career. Men and women. At this point, I'd say it's fair to call it half. This doesn't mean that they were military pilots though.

 

[Flying the Line]

Trans States pilots are still bitchin' about Hulas starting UFS in 93 and how they lost all those jobs. What's the difference now?

 

[redbook]

I'm talking about the HR departments.

I misunderstood. Sorry.

And I agree with your original post then.

 

[acbarney]

Actually, a lot of the people that I've flown with have military backgrounds at some point in their career. Men and women. At this point, I'd say it's fair to call it half. This doesn't mean that they were military pilots though.

In my class, a year and a half ago, most pilots were listed as former 121 guys. However, probably half of those 121 guys also had some form of military flying mixed in their careers. There were very few 121 virgins, I think 3 out of 20 were straight out of the military.

 

[Scrapdog]

I hope you're on to something, but I don't think so. Ive been really surprised by the low amount of military we seem to be hiring here.

LJDRVR - that is 100 percent correct. CAL has always statistically been a major that does not like to hire a "more proportionate" amount of mil folks vs. its civilian folks. Let's call it how it is. My class of 20 guys - 2 mil guys. That's 10 percent - way low and disproportionate. The class after me - 20 guys, 3 mil folks...etc, etc. Look at a typical SWA, FDX, UPS breakdown. A SWA class of 12 folks - typically 5,6,7 mil flyers. FDX has about 50 percent per class, sometimes slightly more. Much more proportionate than CAL. But that's CAL's modus operandi, now - and in the past. Things that make you go hmmm...