Skywest talking pilot pay raise

[thrustport]

before someone asks........

source
http://erds.dol-esa.gov/query/getOrgQry.do

look for ALPA under Union Abbreviation

 

[sweptback]

before someone asks........

source
http://erds.dol-esa.gov/query/getOrgQry.do

look for ALPA under Union Abbreviation

I believe these numbers include all benefits such as health, dental, 401k match, etc. Just to make an apples-to-apples comparison...

 

[thebest]

ALPA numbers filed with US Dept of Labor........

$487,930.....Duane Woerth's salary
$180,874.....Dennis Dolan's (VP) slary
$162,735.....Paul Rice's (VP) salary
$155,360.....Christopher Beebe's (VP) salary
$311,158.....ALPA Head of Finance salary
$161,195.....Bob Striegel's (Staff Engineer) salary
$113,710.....Manager Real Estate's salary
$111,135.....Meeting Planner's salary
$62,682......ALPA Receptionist's salary
$45,906......Job title listed as "temp"
$123,113.....ALPA Head of HR
$65,166......ALPA Graphic artist's salary
$130,954....ALPA Economic analyst's salary
$54,543......DAL MEC Chair's salary
$17,802......DHL MEC Chair's salary
$20,999......ASA MEC Chair's salary
$14,997......ASA MEC Vice Chair's salary
$25,563......FedEx MEC Chair's salary
$35,337......UAL MEC Chair's salary
$66,587......TSA MEC Chair's salary

$43,800,000 or there abouts in salaries...........

The question is does Skywest need ALPA or does ALPA need 2,500 more pilot dues to pay those salaries???

That's what I'm thinkin' THEBEST

 

[Ponchus pilot]

$487,930.....Duane Woerth's salary
$180,874.....Dennis Dolan's (VP) slary
$162,735.....Paul Rice's (VP) salary
$155,360.....Christopher Beebe's (VP) salary
$311,158.....ALPA Head of Finance salary
$161,195.....Bob Striegel's (Staff Engineer) salary
$113,710.....Manager Real Estate's salary
$111,135.....Meeting Planner's salary
$62,682......ALPA Receptionist's salary
$45,906......Job title listed as "temp"
$123,113.....ALPA Head of HR
$65,166......ALPA Graphic artist's salary
$130,954....ALPA Economic analyst's salary
$54,543......DAL MEC Chair's salary
$17,802......DHL MEC Chair's salary
$20,999......ASA MEC Chair's salary
$14,997......ASA MEC Vice Chair's salary
$25,563......FedEx MEC Chair's salary
$35,337......UAL MEC Chair's salary
$66,587......TSA MEC Chair's salary

What you just said does not make a lick of sense. So you are complaining that such a large organization is spending 4.3 mil on payroll per year to serve all ALPA carriers (and non ALPA pilots as well since we lobby for everyone). Why dont you post what managemnt payroll per year is and what their stock options and retirement packages are.

Skywest is making so much money and poor ALPA is after it. You dont even know how the system works you. Your MEC reps have to take time away from flying to work for you, do you expect them to work for free? Just as usual, empty rhetoric.

Oh yeah ALPA is the answer. They have done some much for all of us.

They, who are they? You the pilot is ALPA. How many meetings have you gone to. have you tried running for any positions in the union? ALPA pilots have done alot for the group, union or non-union.

 

[CRJDog]

What you just said does not make a lick of sense. So you are complaining that such a large organization is spending 4.3 mil on payroll per year to serve all ALPA carriers (and non ALPA pilots as well since we lobby for everyone). Why dont you post what managemnt payroll per year is and what their stock options and retirement packages are.

Skywest is making so much money and poor ALPA is after it. You dont even know how the system works you. Your MEC reps have to take time away from flying to work for you, do you expect them to work for free? Just as usual, empty rhetoric.

Well they are certainly not working for me.

 

[Ponchus pilot]

BTW The health insurance is paid by you on a group rate

Not at the ALPA carrier I work for and probably many others. The company still pays a portion of it. Thats why if we decide to not have the insurance the company puts a certain amount of money per month per person (I think $50) in a health savings account and you can use it for anything health related. Keep spinnin and hatin.

 

[thrustport]

4.3 million would be somewhere near acceptable........the actual figure is 43.8 million.

What does Duane Woerthless do exactly? Apart from play part time TV personality?

 

[Ponchus pilot]

4.3 million would be somewhere near acceptable........the actual figure is 43.8 million.

Add up the numbers you posted.

What does Duane Woerthless do exactly?

What does he not do and what do you think he should do?

 

[atlcrjdriver]

The question is does Skywest need ALPA or does ALPA need 2,500 more pilot dues to pay those salaries???

The only way to truely stop the whipsaw effect is to form one collective bargaining unit to negotiate one contract amongst the ASA/SKW pilot group. Think of it this way, why should SKW/ASA have different contracts flying the same eq for the same parent company?

 

[Bluto]

Good question. Did you ask that when ASA and CMR were both owned by Delta?

 

[thrustport]

Add up the numbers you posted.


The numbers posted were representative examples pulled from the report. The total salary expense for ALPA is 43.8 Million dollars.

 

[sweptback]

Good question. Did you ask that when ASA and CMR were both owned by Delta?

About 2 years after Delta bought ASA they were already shopping them around for sale. You can't easily sell an airline if it has been merged with another airline.

That being said, the ASA and CMR MECs had agreed on DOH senority if the two lists were ever merged. Since I don't believe that SkyWest is looking to sell ASA anytime soon, it would make sense to merge the companies.

 

[Gr82Aviate]

Have you ever got "reflowed" on a day off? At my company reflow and JM are two totally different things.
Reflow is an unscheduled change to a trip. It could be a change in the destination for an out and back or an extra trip tacked on during a long break. Typically a reflow would occur due to another aircraft having a MX problem or a crewmember getting sick at an outstation.
Anotherwords it's generally not a forecast situation, rather a response to an unforeseen problem.
In over 6 years it's happened a few times that I can recall. In some cases it can actually work out to your benefit. All depends.

Junior man is flying on days that you were not scheduled to fly.
Reflow is an unexpected change to your schedule during a normal work block.
Junior man is voluntary for us. Reflow is not.

When you get a chance you can explain how junior man and reflow are basically the same. Maybe at your company the terminology is different but where I work they are different animals.

From my perspective reflow doesn't occur often enough for it to be an issue for me personally. Unlike excessive junior manning reflows are seldom preventable. It's usually not a lack of staffing causing a reflow.

Trust me on this Dave, if you had ever been "reflowed" like I was you'd be a lot more concerned about reflows!!!

 

[ArcticFlier]

They're not going to be happy if a union comes. That fact alone may actually make matters worse for the pilots because management will see it as a betrayal of their relationship with their employees.

Who has betrayed whom? The pilot group? Please. Who has refused to amend (ie. undo the lower of the two rates for the RJ) the 18 month (in excess of three years worth; do the math. It was mid '03) TA? Us? No. It was SGU.

Who dangled many carrots in front of the pilot group just prior to a drive vote, only to say "well, we've got more pressing issues right now. Pay will have to take a back seat (read: throw a leg over each front seat, and hang on for the fu%^ing of your lifetime), and tell the pilot group at SKYW to pound sand? Us? No. It was SGU (each and every time).

Who shoved PBS down our throats? Us? No. It was SGU.

Is this the kind of relationship you enjoy?



AF

 

[Gr82Aviate]

Who has betrayed whom? The pilot group? Please. Who has refused to amend (ie. undo the lower of the two rates for the RJ) the 18 month (in excess of three years worth; do the math. It was mid '03) TA? Us? No. It was SGU.

Who dangled many carrots in front of the pilot group just prior to a drive vote, only to say "well, we've got more pressing issues right now. Pay will have to take a back seat (read: throw a leg over each front seat, and hang on for the fu%^ing of your lifetime), and tell the pilot group at SKYW to pound sand? Us? No. It was SGU (each and every time).

Who shoved PBS down our throats? Us? No. It was SGU.

Is this the kind of relationship you enjoy?



AF

Thank you for "getting it"! Time for all you fencesitters to do the same!!!