EAGLE, SKYWEST or REPUBLIC

[RUNWAYHOG]

Offer from all of them, but who is the best as far as pay, upgrade and reserve. Any input will help. Thanks!

 

[sweatro]

Not Eagle

 

[Flyer1015]

Yeah as far as upgrades go, I've heard that Eagle isn't great in that department, but that could all change anywhere.

I think everyone knows today's fast upgrade airline could be tomorrow's furloughed/no-upgrade airline.


As far as pay goes, I believe Eagle 1st year F/O pay at $23.51, with a 75 hr monthly guarantee (reserves). Even with work rules accounted for, that still beats some other airlines that start out at $19.02/hr. That's almost a $5 difference per hour.

 

[rickair7777]

SKW or CHQ, depending on where you want to live. I think SKW is a better operation, but it's not worth a long commute. Both appear to have reasonable upgrade opportunities.

 

[jobear]

Haul freight/corporate/135 and skip the Regionals alltogether. If I could do it all over again thats the way I'd go, but then again I hate F.A.'s,crappy pay, and large companies.

 

[Flyer1015]

Asking whether you should go to Eagle, Skywest, or Republic, is like asking, "Should I drink Poison #1, Poison #2, or Poison #3 ?"

No matter which one you choose, you're still drinking poison.

 

[flyby]

Offer from all of them, but who is the best as far as pay, upgrade and reserve. Any input will help. Thanks!

If you had to choose based on current data you should choose Skywest. The trick is predicting what these carriers will look like in 2-3 years. Skywest has been a good bet for many years.

good luck

 

[amcnd]

Not Eagle!! Most pilots leave there for SKyWest. I did!!

 

[RUNWAYHOG]

135 is not that great, I think you guys have been 121 to long. I'm tired of the night shi%^. I like to know what day time is again. Dose Eagle have a flow through?

 

[jetexas]

Skywest

 

[Flyer1015]

Does Eagle have a flow through?

Take a quick trip to Eaglelounge.com to find out how well the flow through has worked for Eagle pilots...

 

[flyby]

135 is not that great, I think you guys have been 121 to long. I'm tired of the night shi%^. I like to know what day time is again. Dose Eagle have a flow through?

Eagle has a flow-through with American that expires May 2007. As it stands the agreement becomes 'null and void' on that date. Whether they will renegotiate the agreement is doubtful.

If you want to flow-through to a major try ExpressJet. They seem to have a less contentious relationship with their major airline partner. I am not even sure that XJT has a flow-through but it seems there is upward movement to CAL over there. Life inside the AMR family gives a new meaning to dysfunctional.

If you're not concerned about upgrade Eagle isn't a bad place to be.

cheers

 

[On Your Six]

135 is not that great, I think you guys have been 121 to long. I'm tired of the night shi%^. I like to know what day time is again. Dose Eagle have a flow through?

Avoid Eagle - they have too many AA flowbacks and you won't upgrade for years.... I would go to Republic if you could get on the E170. Skywest will continue to have union (or lack of) issues and the ASA situation there will be acrimonious. Take the 170 and run in my opinion.

 

[cbogacz]

If aa ever starts hiring again than the only way eagle pilots will work there is by quiting eagle and then applying at aa off the street the flow through is a joke. Anyway eagle is super short staffed all of our reserves including myself are 80 + hours this month and were losing 15 f.o.s for oct. let the j.m. begin oh wait it already did so I personally am trying my luck at Skywest but if I could get the 170 out of chicago I'd take republic. But thats just cuz i prefer the embraer and chicago's home good luck

 

[ilkwamh2]

Where do you live?

 

[willNOTfly4free]

As far as pay goes, I believe Eagle 1st year F/O pay at $23.51, with a 75 hr monthly guarantee (reserves). Even with work rules accounted for, that still beats some other airlines that start out at $19.02/hr. That's almost a $5 difference per hour.

Yeah that extra $4.49/hr may look good now, but keep in mind you'll still be making less than 40,000/year as a 7 year FO at Eagle.

 

[Av8tor1]

REPUBLIC. They are the only US reginal with the 170s plus, everybody wants them. Soon to take over Comairs' delta flying and Expressjets'Continental flying. That would be my bet.

 

[ATRCA]

REPUBLIC. They are the only US reginal with the 170s plus, everybody wants them. Soon to take over Comairs' delta flying and Expressjets'Continental flying. That would be my bet.

You should get a copy of CAL's CPA before you spout. You probably don't even know what I'm referring to do you? Pity.

 

[PilotOnTheRise]

Yeah that extra $4.49/hr may look good now, but keep in mind you'll still be making less than 40,000/year as a 7 year FO at Eagle.

Less than $40K/year as a 7 year FO. Maybe on the prop, but the jet should be able to pull in $40K. I know FO's making less than $38/hr, less than their 7th year, making $40K. Maybe you are assuming only flying the minimum.

 

[bmpilot2003]

Less than $40K/year as a 7 year FO. Maybe on the prop, but the jet should be able to pull in $40K. I know FO's making less than $38/hr, less than their 7th year, making $40K. Maybe you are assuming only flying the minimum.

Whats your point? It is still terrible! Its been two years since i left AE. The sad thing about it is when i left there were people telling me "why are you leaving you will be making less money there." Well i was able to upgrade in a year at skywest and jump straight to 45 an hour. Who is making more now? By the way i also made more money first year at skywest because i wasnt stuck on reserve for a year. The benefits for career progression at skywest are far better.

 

[Weasil]

Offer from all of them, but who is the best as far as pay, upgrade and reserve. Any input will help. Thanks!

Do you plan on moving? In other words will commuting be a factor? Because if the choice comes down to living in base or commuting you should go with the airline that allows you to live in base.

 

[Brasilia Flyer]

Where do you live?

I live in Utah.

 

[PilotOnTheRise]

Whats your point? It is still terrible! Its been two years since i left AE. The sad thing about it is when i left there were people telling me "why are you leaving you will be making less money there." Well i was able to upgrade in a year at skywest and jump straight to 45 an hour. Who is making more now? By the way i also made more money first year at skywest because i wasnt stuck on reserve for a year. The benefits for career progression at skywest are far better.

Definately! I was't infering that making $40K as a 7th year FO was good. I would hope that nobody would even have to see their 7th year as an FO. But, just as I am sure you don't make just $43K as a CA at SkyW (45)(12)(80), I doubt the 7th year Eagle FO makes just $32,832, (38)(12)(72). They probably pull in $40K+, especially with 7 years seniority. I guess my point is; if Eagle is your choice for reasons other than upgrade, such as base, and other reasons, it isn't SO bad, especially if you are single, or your spouse also works. I think sometimes people tend to low ball regional pay, when it tends to be better than that.

That being said, I would choose SkyW over Eagle any day, but things can change. Is upgrade still running 7-8 years at Eagle? I hear for those hired in recent years, the upgrade will be much less. Is this true?

 

[Weasil]

I live in Utah.

ummm... i don't think they were asking you. They were asking runwayhog.

 

[Swaayze]

Is upgrade still running 7-8 years at Eagle? I hear for those hired in recent years, the upgrade will be much less. Is this true?

Yes, 7 years to turboprop Captain currently. Honestly don't expect those numbers to decline unless a large growth aircraft order is placed. Eagle is a very mature large airline with lotsa lifers and few retirements in the near future. Things will remain mostly stagnant here for a while, especially with age 65 rapidly approaching.

 

[RUNWAYHOG]

4 years ago Comair was the number 1 regional, now its neck and neck with skywest and republic. In four years both maybe bankrupt and I'll be a 4 year F/O on the steet looking for another job and going through thoses pain in the rear interviews again. I don't know how is better, but I do know one thing. American Eagle is one of the oldest regionals in the industry, and I'm not saying that were I'll go but these things are true. If I'm wrong, someone please set me streight.

 

[bailout]

"someone please set me streight."

OK, 'straight'

 

[Weasil]

In four years both maybe bankrupt and I'll be a 4 year F/O on the steet looking for another job and going through thoses pain in the rear interviews again. .

This is entirely the wrong approach, you can't base your decision on which regional to pick based on where it might be in 4 years. You have no idea and neither does anyone else. Things change, and when they change they change rapidly without warning. All of the rumors are usually wrong, the things that happen are something else unexpected so your plans will have been wrong anyway.
You should base your decision on what is best in the short term, IMHO anyway. IE: where do you want to live, where can I hope for some movement up the seniority list in the near future in order to not be on reserve a long time. And just think, every "pain in the rear interview" you go to with a regional will make you that much better for that one you get with your airline of choice down the road.

 

[RUNWAYHOG]

So, if I go to Eagle, more pay, no up grade for 7 years. If I go to Skywest, lower pay, maybe upgrade in less then three. And if I go to Republic ????

 

[Weasil]

You will probably advance pretty quick over there too, they still have a fair bit of growth to go as far as I know. I have a few friends there who all upgraded in under 2 years. The good thing with Chaupublishuttle is that they have domiciles all over the place. And as for making less then at Eagle, you will actually make more if you are at a place where you get off reserve quickly and move up the list.