EAGLE, SKYWEST or REPUBLIC

[Weasil]

Offer from all of them, but who is the best as far as pay, upgrade and reserve. Any input will help. Thanks!

Do you plan on moving? In other words will commuting be a factor? Because if the choice comes down to living in base or commuting you should go with the airline that allows you to live in base.

 

[Brasilia Flyer]

Where do you live?

I live in Utah.

 

[PilotOnTheRise]

Whats your point? It is still terrible! Its been two years since i left AE. The sad thing about it is when i left there were people telling me "why are you leaving you will be making less money there." Well i was able to upgrade in a year at skywest and jump straight to 45 an hour. Who is making more now? By the way i also made more money first year at skywest because i wasnt stuck on reserve for a year. The benefits for career progression at skywest are far better.

Definately! I was't infering that making $40K as a 7th year FO was good. I would hope that nobody would even have to see their 7th year as an FO. But, just as I am sure you don't make just $43K as a CA at SkyW (45)(12)(80), I doubt the 7th year Eagle FO makes just $32,832, (38)(12)(72). They probably pull in $40K+, especially with 7 years seniority. I guess my point is; if Eagle is your choice for reasons other than upgrade, such as base, and other reasons, it isn't SO bad, especially if you are single, or your spouse also works. I think sometimes people tend to low ball regional pay, when it tends to be better than that.

That being said, I would choose SkyW over Eagle any day, but things can change. Is upgrade still running 7-8 years at Eagle? I hear for those hired in recent years, the upgrade will be much less. Is this true?

 

[Weasil]

I live in Utah.

ummm... i don't think they were asking you. They were asking runwayhog.

 

[Swaayze]

Is upgrade still running 7-8 years at Eagle? I hear for those hired in recent years, the upgrade will be much less. Is this true?

Yes, 7 years to turboprop Captain currently. Honestly don't expect those numbers to decline unless a large growth aircraft order is placed. Eagle is a very mature large airline with lotsa lifers and few retirements in the near future. Things will remain mostly stagnant here for a while, especially with age 65 rapidly approaching.

 

[RUNWAYHOG]

4 years ago Comair was the number 1 regional, now its neck and neck with skywest and republic. In four years both maybe bankrupt and I'll be a 4 year F/O on the steet looking for another job and going through thoses pain in the rear interviews again. I don't know how is better, but I do know one thing. American Eagle is one of the oldest regionals in the industry, and I'm not saying that were I'll go but these things are true. If I'm wrong, someone please set me streight.

 

[bailout]

"someone please set me streight."

OK, 'straight'

 

[Weasil]

In four years both maybe bankrupt and I'll be a 4 year F/O on the steet looking for another job and going through thoses pain in the rear interviews again. .

This is entirely the wrong approach, you can't base your decision on which regional to pick based on where it might be in 4 years. You have no idea and neither does anyone else. Things change, and when they change they change rapidly without warning. All of the rumors are usually wrong, the things that happen are something else unexpected so your plans will have been wrong anyway.
You should base your decision on what is best in the short term, IMHO anyway. IE: where do you want to live, where can I hope for some movement up the seniority list in the near future in order to not be on reserve a long time. And just think, every "pain in the rear interview" you go to with a regional will make you that much better for that one you get with your airline of choice down the road.

 

[RUNWAYHOG]

So, if I go to Eagle, more pay, no up grade for 7 years. If I go to Skywest, lower pay, maybe upgrade in less then three. And if I go to Republic ????

 

[Weasil]

You will probably advance pretty quick over there too, they still have a fair bit of growth to go as far as I know. I have a few friends there who all upgraded in under 2 years. The good thing with Chaupublishuttle is that they have domiciles all over the place. And as for making less then at Eagle, you will actually make more if you are at a place where you get off reserve quickly and move up the list.

 

[RUNWAYHOG]

So do you know who has the quickest upgrade, Skywest or Republic?

 

[SKYWRJGUY]

Don't come here we don't have a union. Decide on those aspects you find most important, then align those with the offers--should be pretty easy, given amount of information available.

 

[RUNWAYHOG]

I'm not so sure if a union matters. All they have done is screw the pilots over the last 15 years. 20 years ago when I was in the union they looked out for the workers, now all they do is collect the dues and go to lunch with the employer.

 

[PilotOnTheRise]

So, if I go to Eagle, more pay, no up grade for 7 years. If I go to Skywest, lower pay, maybe upgrade in less then three. And if I go to Republic ????

I wouldn't say lower pay at SkyWest. Their pay looks equal to Eagle for the most part. On top of that, you will upgrade quicker at SkyWest. Looks like upgrade on the EMB is running 1 year to 2 years, with the CRJ being around 3 years or so. Somebody can correct me if I am wrong there.

 

[ALGFLYR]

Keep in mind that Republic has over 70 J4J pilots. With 30 175's coming, there will probably be another 70 or 80 CA slots and a few more FO slots taken by J4J pilots. With US Air recalling, although slow right now, once the J4J pilots go back to ML, there will be A LOT of movement at Republic. Now would be a good time to get in. The recalls could take a couple of years, but upgrading sooner than that anywhere is probably unrealistic anyway. That would be my chioce...

Also, time in the 170/175 will be good experience to get. Jetblue operates the 190 which is the same rating, and US Air will probable hire off the street into the 190 as soon as a year from now. I think the 170 will make you more marketable in the future to other larger airlines...

 

[RUNWAYHOG]

I'll Be going to Republic!! Thanks for all the feedback from all you great guys. If anyone can give me a heads up on anything I need to know, it would be welcomed.

 

[EMB170Pilot]

from a passenger I flew last week (and this is common)

I am so sick and tired of flying on those POs canadian aircraft. "Finally (referring to the E-170), a plane I can travel on that can hold my luggage and is comftorable. I hope you guys do more flying for Delta."

As stated earlier in this thread, we are the only company that has the E-170 and it truly is a REAL airplane! Come to RAH, we have a great product that beats the crap out of the CRJs (what skywest...comair....asa.... and whoever else has)

SkyWest is a great company BUT..Every 2 day, 3 day, or 4 day trip I do, I ALWAYS get compliments from passengers on how much they enjoyed the flight and the E170.

Even AirCanada bought the E170, E175, and E190 and said FU to the CRJ700 & 900. They are just uncomftorable.

Like I said, SkyWest is a great company. They are currently bigger than RAH but we have the dominant airplane & the only established E170 training program.

Picking a regional is a crap shoot...do your homework before making your decision.

 

[EMB170Pilot]

I'll Be going to Republic!! Thanks for all the feedback from all you great guys. If anyone can give me a heads up on anything I need to know, it would be welcomed.

Damn, I was too late..but read what I posted anyway

 

[ALGFLYR]

I'll Be going to Republic!! Thanks for all the feedback from all you great guys. If anyone can give me a heads up on anything I need to know, it would be welcomed.

Do you have a class date? I have access to a lot of Republic info on the 170. I'll be happy send it to you...

 

[RUNWAYHOG]

ALGFLYR incomming PM.