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Don't come here we don't have a union. Decide on those aspects you find most important, then align those with the offers--should be pretty easy, given amount of information available.
 
I'm not so sure if a union matters. All they have done is screw the pilots over the last 15 years. 20 years ago when I was in the union they looked out for the workers, now all they do is collect the dues and go to lunch with the employer.
 
RUNWAYHOG said:
So, if I go to Eagle, more pay, no up grade for 7 years. If I go to Skywest, lower pay, maybe upgrade in less then three. And if I go to Republic ????
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I wouldn't say lower pay at SkyWest. Their pay looks equal to Eagle for the most part. On top of that, you will upgrade quicker at SkyWest. Looks like upgrade on the EMB is running 1 year to 2 years, with the CRJ being around 3 years or so. Somebody can correct me if I am wrong there.
 
Keep in mind that Republic has over 70 J4J pilots. With 30 175's coming, there will probably be another 70 or 80 CA slots and a few more FO slots taken by J4J pilots. With US Air recalling, although slow right now, once the J4J pilots go back to ML, there will be A LOT of movement at Republic. Now would be a good time to get in. The recalls could take a couple of years, but upgrading sooner than that anywhere is probably unrealistic anyway. That would be my chioce...

Also, time in the 170/175 will be good experience to get. Jetblue operates the 190 which is the same rating, and US Air will probable hire off the street into the 190 as soon as a year from now. I think the 170 will make you more marketable in the future to other larger airlines...
 
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I'll Be going to Republic!! Thanks for all the feedback from all you great guys. If anyone can give me a heads up on anything I need to know, it would be welcomed.
 
from a passenger I flew last week (and this is common)

I am so sick and tired of flying on those POs canadian aircraft. "Finally (referring to the E-170), a plane I can travel on that can hold my luggage and is comftorable. I hope you guys do more flying for Delta."

As stated earlier in this thread, we are the only company that has the E-170 and it truly is a REAL airplane! Come to RAH, we have a great product that beats the crap out of the CRJs (what skywest...comair....asa.... and whoever else has)

SkyWest is a great company BUT..Every 2 day, 3 day, or 4 day trip I do, I ALWAYS get compliments from passengers on how much they enjoyed the flight and the E170.

Even AirCanada bought the E170, E175, and E190 and said FU to the CRJ700 & 900. They are just uncomftorable.

Like I said, SkyWest is a great company. They are currently bigger than RAH but we have the dominant airplane & the only established E170 training program.

Picking a regional is a crap shoot...do your homework before making your decision.
 
RUNWAYHOG said:
I'll Be going to Republic!! Thanks for all the feedback from all you great guys. If anyone can give me a heads up on anything I need to know, it would be welcomed.
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Do you have a class date? I have access to a lot of Republic info on the 170. I'll be happy send it to you...
 
So how much of the new hires at CHQ are getting the 170? how much hiring are you guys doing?

What bases (at chq) are most junior and how hard would it be to commute to and from IND or EWR? do you guys have some sort of a commuter clause in your contract?

Thanks.
 
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Remember one thing when it comes to being hired at the airline with the "fastest upgrade":

Past results are not indicative of future performance.
 
Flyingdutchman said:
So how much of the new hires at CHQ are getting the 170? how much hiring are you guys doing?

What bases (at chq) are most junior and how hard would it be to commute to and from IND or EWR? do you guys have some sort of a commuter clause in your contract?

Thanks.
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if you have ATP mins, you'll get the 170 "IF" their is a 170 class for Shuttle or Republic about to start before you come to class. If not, you'll be put into the 145 CHQ class.

Flood gates are opening due to the new aircraft for Continental and 20 planes for US Air. Upgrade classes are being posted on our company websites.

Don't know about bases since I dont fly for CHQ. I know BUF is junior. others I dont know, im sure someone will chime in.

Yes on the commuter clause.
 
EMB170Pilot said:
As stated earlier in this thread, we are the only company that has the E-170 and it truly is a REAL airplane! Come to RAH, we have a great product that beats the crap out of the CRJs (what skywest...comair....asa.... and whoever else has).
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ok now which airplane 170 or 700 goes:

faster?
higher?

which one is a "real" airplane? cmon loser, like companies care what passengers think.

i bet you'd have been bragging in the early 90's about being in a 1900 instead of that "other" 19 seater the san antonio sewer pipe merlin.
 
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CitationLover said:
ok now which airplane 170 or 700 goes:

faster?
higher?

which one is a "real" airplane? cmon loser, like companies care what passengers think.

i bet you'd have been bragging in the early 90's about being in a 1900 instead of that "other" 19 seater the san antonio sewer pipe merlin.
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The Metro rules all... I guess a Citation X is a real airplane to you then...it goes faster and higher then either. Neither is a real airplane, (ie boeing/bus) but when you compare them for what their intent is, the ERJ wins hands down. The CRJ goes somewhere in the range of .2 mach faster.....whahoooo, but have you ever tried to take a pi$$ in that POs? I'm 5'9" and my head hit the curved fuselage in that undersized rear lav. The 145's lav is bigger! I had to aim to try and hit the bowl a good 12" away.

Airlines hand out customer survey's to find out what they would like to see improved. Almost 100% ask for more leg and carry-on space. But what do you care....just remember to get ice, papers, and your CEO's luggage before you leave loser
 
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Why would one have to quit Eagle before applying at AA?
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If AA is hiring, and you are at Eagle it doesnt make sense for them to hire you. They would have an AE training event to upgrade a CA to take your spot, a newhire off the street to take the FO spot, and have to put you through training at AA as an FO. All can be avoided by hiring 1 guy off the street into AA.
 
Flyby1206 said:
If AA is hiring, and you are at Eagle it doesnt make sense for them to hire you. They would have an AE training event to upgrade a CA to take your spot, a newhire off the street to take the FO spot, and have to put you through training at AA as an FO. All can be avoided by hiring 1 guy off the street into AA.
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I've heard this reasoning before, but it doesn't make any sense. With this line of thought, how long would a pilot have to be away from Eagle before AA would consider hiring him? If you quit Eagle, they will still have to train someone to take your seat.

BTW, I interned at AA and got to know several FO's that were hired straight from Eagle. It can be done.
 
Flyby1206 said:
If AA is hiring, and you are at Eagle it doesnt make sense for them to hire you.
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But they have done it many times in the past. Lots of cases of them hiring Eagle guys off the street, even if that makes no sense to you or me, they do it. Besides, Cbogaz was insinuating that you must quit Eagle to apply at AA.
 
CitationLover said:
ok now which airplane 170 or 700 goes:

faster?
higher?

which one is a "real" airplane? cmon loser, like companies care what passengers think.
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Hmmmmm I always thought passengers were our bread and butter. Maybe I have the wrong business attitude.:cool:

It's all about comfortness to me. If you've never sat in a 170 or crj700. then you wont know what I am talking about. I know this is FI but Im not knocking the companies that have the crj. I'm just stating my own opinion that the 170 is a superior a/c compared to the crj700. Again, just look at what a/c Air Canada decided to go with. Nuff said
 
EMB170Pilot said:
Hmmmmm I always thought passengers were our bread and butter. Maybe I have the wrong business attitude.:cool:

It's all about comfortness to me. If you've never sat in a 170 or crj700. then you wont know what I am talking about. I know this is FI but Im not knocking the companies that have the crj. I'm just stating my own opinion that the 170 is a superior a/c compared to the crj700. Again, just look at what a/c Air Canada decided to go with. Nuff said
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You are not quite right. The idea may be to keep them comfortable but this is only as comfortable as the market will bear. If their comfort was the only consideration then the airplanes would only have 15 seats and be configured like a corporate jet. Economics plays a much larger role, how much comfort can we afford to give them and still sell tickets. This is why you will always see a variety of airplanes in the market. Delta likes having both 170s and CRJ's because that way they get a little extra luxury on some routes while still keeping the cheaper costs on some routes.
 
correct weasil.

I was going to add in my previous post that the crj700 would be a great airplane if they removed some of the seats to make it more comftorable but that would be taking away from the economics. I decdied to leave the post as it is. I didn't want to ramble

I should've included it by what you sare saying
 

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