EuroWheenie
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TonyC
Don't remember us having a discussion over the composition of the sea and the colour of the sky, but I'm willing to go down that road if it'll lead to an interesting debate
bofecus
The US airline industry may not need the A380, but then again apart from NW and UA they don't need the 747 (pax version) either. In either case, there are around 150 confirmed orders that prove you wrong including most of the major Asian airlines (every single one really, except CX, JL and ANA) and that's where the market is. As for you bringing down this discussion even further by alledging it's a contest over EU vs US lifestyles ... nah, won't go there. Let's just say that the EU countries does not display a single way of life as is the case in the US. There are vast differences in both culture, governance, democracy and politics. Europe range from pretty far left (Socialist Portugal) to pretty far right (Ultra-liberalistic Italy) with everything imagineable in between.
Don't know who it was, but someone said (correctly according to what I've learned here about the 787 orders and LoI's) that the 787 has outsold the A380. Yep, and the A320 series has outsold the 747 which proves absolutely f. all. They are hardly competitors. A more correct comparison would be A350 vs 787, where Boeing has more or less swept the carpet away under Airbus. And jolly good for them it is too!
Now if Boeing would just take advantage of the momentum gained with the 787 technology, downscale it and launch a 737 replacement then the tables would truly be turned and we would have Boeing taking the lead. There are rumours that the 787 will be cockpit compatible with the 777; imagine a single-aisle family aircraft that was also common - a major unque selling point of Airbus would then vanish.
Don't remember us having a discussion over the composition of the sea and the colour of the sky, but I'm willing to go down that road if it'll lead to an interesting debate
bofecus
The US airline industry may not need the A380, but then again apart from NW and UA they don't need the 747 (pax version) either. In either case, there are around 150 confirmed orders that prove you wrong including most of the major Asian airlines (every single one really, except CX, JL and ANA) and that's where the market is. As for you bringing down this discussion even further by alledging it's a contest over EU vs US lifestyles ... nah, won't go there. Let's just say that the EU countries does not display a single way of life as is the case in the US. There are vast differences in both culture, governance, democracy and politics. Europe range from pretty far left (Socialist Portugal) to pretty far right (Ultra-liberalistic Italy) with everything imagineable in between.
Don't know who it was, but someone said (correctly according to what I've learned here about the 787 orders and LoI's) that the 787 has outsold the A380. Yep, and the A320 series has outsold the 747 which proves absolutely f. all. They are hardly competitors. A more correct comparison would be A350 vs 787, where Boeing has more or less swept the carpet away under Airbus. And jolly good for them it is too!
Now if Boeing would just take advantage of the momentum gained with the 787 technology, downscale it and launch a 737 replacement then the tables would truly be turned and we would have Boeing taking the lead. There are rumours that the 787 will be cockpit compatible with the 777; imagine a single-aisle family aircraft that was also common - a major unque selling point of Airbus would then vanish.
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