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I received a telephone call last week saying "things look like they are in order" and I should be phoned in the next few weeks. Is this something that the HR folks do since no one here has mentioned a phone call yet.?? Has anyone else gotten this same call..??
 
Application Update

I went to update my application last night considering I finally got my ATP done and noticed first off, the pilot opening is no longer available and secondly during the update you can't update all the boxes just your resume and cover letter. Anyone know how to update the original app.?
 
For what it's worth and what I'm reading on the boards, I think that they are calling more of the guys typed in the X. I submitted an online app and received a call in a little over a week. Took another couple to get an interview date, but that was mainly due to my schedule.

I spent a lot of time asking questions and I got the impression that it is a solid operation with impressive long term growth potential, if everything goes according to plan( economy, etc..).

F.H.
 
Yeah, my buddy said they were looking for typed 750 guys first, but he got an FO spot without it. I'm sure their looking to fill all the Captain spots with the 750 drivers but it can't hurt to try.
 
Tier 2 Domiciles?

Just out of curiosity, what are XOJET's Tier 2 Domiciles? Also, how do you folks at XOJET (or NJA for that matter) like the 15/13 rotation cycle? I'm single and think that would be ideal for my current situation. Also, what has been the trend with respect to what aircraft people are getting placed in? I'm liking what I see so far about the company. I have no internal connections at XO, but may send my stuff in regardless. Any need for a late twenties pilot with 3000 hrs in his logbook? :)
 
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Hi!

The longest tour at NJA is 7 days, except once every four months you may get one 8 day tour.

It's not like USA Jet!

cliff
YIP
 
Tier 2 domiciles are determined on a case by case basis. The main requirement is that it be near an airport with reasonable airline service. Only the 15/13 schedule is available at a Tier 2 domicile. Either the 15/13 or 8/6 schedule are available at our Tier 1 domiciles.

As for comparing it with NetJets' 15-day rotation...they are TOTALLY different schedules. Where NetJets has rules about how the 15 day month is broken up, the XOJet rotation is 15 days straight thru, followed by 13 straight days off. While it's not for everyone, the guys that are on it really like it. The extended period of days off and living where they want are worth the sacrifice of being gone for 15 days.
 
I see. I wasn't aware that NJA broke up the 15 day run. I had assumed correctly that XO ran you straight through and gave you 13 days off. Check your PM TBone.

t-bone said:
Tier 2 domiciles are determined on a case by case basis. The main requirement is that it be near an airport with reasonable airline service. Only the 15/13 schedule is available at a Tier 2 domicile. Either the 15/13 or 8/6 schedule are available at our Tier 1 domiciles.

As for comparing it with NetJets' 15-day rotation...they are TOTALLY different schedules. Where NetJets has rules about how the 15 day month is broken up, the XOJet rotation is 15 days straight thru, followed by 13 straight days off. While it's not for everyone, the guys that are on it really like it. The extended period of days off and living where they want are worth the sacrifice of being gone for 15 days.
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Hi!

The 15 day tour is a MAX of 5 days. After a tour on the 15 day schedule, the MIN days off is 3.

cliff
YIP
 
FlyHigher317 said:
Does anyone know where the NY base is?
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It's not anyone particular airport. You could probably consider anything from IAD-ILG-PHL-EWR-TEB-LGA-HPN-SWF as part of the New York domicile. We fly into and out of those airports all the time, and most have good airline service, making it easy to get you on your way to one of our airplanes. Just like our Southern California base. It's centered around VNY, but it includes San Diego and Riverside...with pretty much the entire LA basin within it's boundary.

As we grow, our domicile definitions have become very accomodating. The Sacramento base now includes Reno. And those guys in Reno rarely have to drive to Sacramento...they seem to airline our of RNO all the time when going on rotation. It works out pretty well for them.

Bottom line, don't make any assumptions based on our list of domiciles. If you successfully interview, the company will more than likely work with you...as long as you don't live 5 hours away from the nearest suitable airport!
 
How many crews per plane does XOJet usually use? I think I read that you have 20 crews for 15 birds. Is that the approximate staffing level? Seems a little low from the outside.
 
Sioux115 said:
How many crews per plane does XOJet usually use? I think I read that you have 20 crews for 15 birds. Is that the approximate staffing level? Seems a little low from the outside.
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How in the world do you infer that because we used 20 crews on a single day to keep our 15 airplanes flying that 20 crews is all we have??? Where in that previous statement did I mention how many crews were at home watching football or mowing the lawn while those 15 airplanes were flying? Did I say anything that would lead anyone but yourself to believe that we didn't have a single pilot enjoying a day off on that particular day?

I could give you an accurate pilots/airplane answer, but I'm almost positive you'll find a way to take my statement out of context. So what's the point?
 
t-bone said:
How in the world do you infer that because we used 20 crews on a single day to keep our 15 airplanes flying that 20 crews is all we have??? Where in that previous statement did I mention how many crews were at home watching football or mowing the lawn while those 15 airplanes were flying? Did I say anything that would lead anyone but yourself to believe that we didn't have a single pilot enjoying a day off on that particular day?

I could give you an accurate pilots/airplane answer, but I'm almost positive you'll find a way to take my statement out of context. So what's the point?
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Sorry for the question! I realize how dumb it sounds now. I guess you thought I was attacking you from your response. It was just a dumb question out of curiousity and I obviously did not think about it before I posted it. I'll make sure I don't take any other responses out of context.

Sioux
 
More than one crew/day per airplane..

When you guys use more than one crew per airplane/day, what happens to the crew that flew the first part of that day? Are they airlined to a different plane to fly the following day? Is it ususally common practise by the company to keep the same crew on the same airplane for the entire tour, or do you have a different setup than the other fraxs seem to do it?

/flyzimex
 
It all depends on where you are when the new crew takes your airplane. If it's in TEB, then chances are there will be another airplane along soon that you'll be assigned to. If you're someplace where you won't be needed anytime soon, then you'll either be airlined to the next city where the need for a surge crew is anticipated, you'll hang out for a day or 2, or they'll airline you back to one of our MX bases. It is very rare that you'll stay with one airplane for an entire tour. This is the reason why your QOL will be much better if you live in one of our MX bases. They won't airline you home to Timbuktu when there's an airplane that will need a crew in MCC once its inspections are complete. Living in a MX base will result in getting home occasionally during your tour.

BTW, I think the # is somewhere around 4.7 pilots/airplane. But that # is expected to increase as our vacation policy takes effect in 2008 and increases the need for higher staffing levels.
 
T-Bone, were you in HPN today?
I had an XOJet X parked beside me @ avitat
Unfortunately I didnt get to say hi to the crew, as my pax showed up about the same time.
 
I heard a rumor that XOJet doesn't like airline guys. Does anyone know if this is true or not? My guess is it came from some airline guy that either got turned down or never even got an interview. I would love to finally be based at home (DEN) and am hoping being an "airline guy" won't disqualify me. The airline world sucks!! Would love a better way of life!
 
Huskers1 said:
I heard a rumor that XOJet doesn't like airline guys.
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I don't know where this rumor has come from, but you're not the only one that has heard it. You're probably right though, we probably didn't hire some guy who happened to have an airline background, and he's blaming it on that aspect alone. If his attitude was that we should hire him because of his worldly experience, then I am certain he DIDN'T get an offer.

It simply is NOT true. We have several guys with mostly/only airline backgrounds. Most are from the regional side of things, but 1 just retired from America West and 1 retired from United after a 40-year career there. Draw your own conclusions.
 
I think that came up before, something about hiring some airline guys (regionals) who left within a year for a major and they were stuck with the bill on the type ratings (I don't think an X type is very cheap).

Maybe rumor, maybe fact, but Netjets hires plenty of airline guys, especially coming out of the majors. If you're leaving a major for a fractional/corporate gig, odds are you're doing it for a quality of life change and won't be going back to the airlines anytime soon...
 
Oh yeah...those guys! We had a handful of ex ACA/Indy guys come over a couple of years ago that, after just a few months on the job, decided they weren't happy with the 135 lifestyle and decided to go help start Skybus. (WTF is right!) As long as you're genuine in your desire to leave the 121 world, which seems to be easy to understand these days, there shouldn't be a problem.
 
t-bone said:
Oh yeah...those guys! We had a handful of ex ACA/Indy guys come over a couple of years ago that, after just a few months on the job, decided they weren't happy with the 135 lifestyle and decided to go help start Skybus. (WTF is right!) As long as you're genuine in your desire to leave the 121 world, which seems to be easy to understand these days, there shouldn't be a problem.
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Hey t-bone,

I know that XOJet operates a few random Beech Premier Jets and King Air 350s (the vast majority of the fleet currently is Citation Xs). What's the likelihood that a newhire could get a slot on a Premier Jet vs. the X?

How much longer will XOJet operate the Premiers and King Airs? Are those specific aircraft just managed for their owners or also available for charter to the public?

Happy holidays.
 
J-Rod,

We've got 1 Premier and 2 King Air 350s. I don't know what the plan is for those airplanes, and the company doesn't really seem to know either. The premier especially has been in limbo for months. One meeting they'll decide to get rid of it, the next meeting they decide they want to keep it around. The guys flying the premier love it, they're home almost every night!

As for getting hired into either of those types...I highly doubt it. Those airplanes are well staffed, and with the uncertainty of their future, hiring into them just doesn't make any sense. That 350 is a nice airplane though! That's a good gig to have.
 
t-bone said:
How in the world do you infer that because we used 20 crews on a single day to keep our 15 airplanes flying that 20 crews is all we have??? Where in that previous statement did I mention how many crews were at home watching football or mowing the lawn while those 15 airplanes were flying? Did I say anything that would lead anyone but yourself to believe that we didn't have a single pilot enjoying a day off on that particular day?

I could give you an accurate pilots/airplane answer, but I'm almost positive you'll find a way to take my statement out of context. So what's the point?
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wow... try meditation.
 
I think meditation or therapy would work...someone seems to be wound up a bit too tight! relax, gain a little self-confidence.
 
H2OK9 said:
I think meditation or therapy would work...someone seems to be wound up a bit too tight! relax, gain a little self-confidence.
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You resurrected a thread from 6 months ago to add that??? Thanks for the advice. I'll think about it, and get back to you...in 6 months.
 

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