XJT pay concessions pass easily

I_Love_Lamp

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1529 out of 2456 eligible voted (62.3%)

1032 FOR (67.5%)

497 AGAINST (32.5%)


67.5%!!! Glad to see all those pilots who said they wouldn't give a cent bend easily.

Does anyone know of a job where you can get paid commission based off of how much of a pay cut you can convince pilots to take? You could make a killing.
 

flyf15

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Can anyone think of a time in history where a paycut at a regional did anything to save the company?

Its sad when employees think they need to bail out their management's bad decisions and then think management will be responsible with the money that they're being given.
 

rightseatjocky

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Hmm sounds like they're setting the bar just a little bit lower.
GREAT JOB GUYS !!!!
Friggen morons
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j3tdr1v3r

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The race to the bottom continues...

Not defending the vote one way or the other, but can you explain how this is racing to the bottom?

----> XJT Pre-Concession
----> CHQ, SKW, Comair, XJT Post-Concession, etc.
---->
---->
---->
---->
---->
---->
---->
---->
---->
---->
---->
---->(Mesa with new TA)
---->
---->Mesa


To race to the bottom would imply being below someone else.
Sorry we set a bar that NO ONE was willing to match.
So what would you do? Continue with the highest bar while you go out of business or step back to the collaborative group (minus one) and move forward as a group.
Setting a bar does NOTHING unless someone can clear it.
 

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Can anyone think of a time in history where a paycut at a regional did anything to save the company?

Its sad when employees think they need to bail out their management's bad decisions and then think management will be responsible with the money that they're being given.
Let's hope this paycut will make history then and save the company.;)

But keep in mind that management had a gun to their head when signing this cpa. They had to give the "savings on the magnitude of..." or lose all CAL flying.
 

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When you justify a downward move in wages by comparing to even lower wages at a competitor you are only perpetuating the problem.
 

Nevets

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Not defending the vote one way or the other, but can you explain how this is racing to the bottom?

----> XJT Pre-Concession
----> EGL
----> XJT Post-Concession
----> ARW
----> ASA
----> CHQ
----> SKW
----> CMR
----> MSA
----> PCL
----> TSA
----> (MAG with new TA)
----> MAG


To race to the bottom would imply being below someone else.
Sorry we set a bar that NO ONE was willing to match.
So what would you do? Continue with the highest bar while you go out of business or step back to the collaborative group (minus one) and move forward as a group.
Setting a bar does NOTHING unless someone can clear it.
I corrected your graph.:) But I wouldn't say that no one was willing to match. Sometimes you just don't have the leverage to do that.
 

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When you justify a downward move in wages by comparing to even lower wages at a competitor you are only perpetuating the problem.

I will concede your point, but would you also agree that by not meeting or exceeding the levels set forth by others, complicit in their downfall, you are doing the same thing?
 

Nevets

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When you justify a downward move in wages by comparing to even lower wages at a competitor you are only perpetuating the problem.
And how would letting the leading contract in the regional segment disappear not perpetuate the problem as a lower contract would take over the flying.

What is perpetuating this is the fact that there is no national seniority list. Or at the very least, the ability to go across corporate lines with longevity and seniority if your airline goes out of business and another one takes over its flying.
 

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A sad day in the aviation industry. A bunch of pilots full of fear give in to the bully.
 

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Where's all the Xjet cheerleaders who were slamming Mesaba and Comair for taking paycuts IN BANKRUPTCY??? Ouch... sucks to be beaten huh? Nobody is immune. Not even the mighty Xjet.
 

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Concur with all of the negative responses above. The XJT pilot group deserves whatever it gets now. Good luck to us all.
 

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apparently MORE THAN 1/3 of our pilot group was so scared they couldn't even log on or place a call to vote.

We got countless emails and phone calls reminding us to vote. WTF?
 

Turtlesfly

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What is perpetuating this is the fact that there is no national seniority list.
Bullcrap. Don't blame the lack of a national seniority list for this. Blame yourself and a bunch of others who voted yes on this. You only had a yes/no vote, not a vote to change the seniority system of the entire nationwide union.
 

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Bullcrap. Don't blame the lack of a national seniority list for this. Blame yourself and a bunch of others who voted yes on this. You only had a yes/no vote, not a vote to change the seniority system of the entire nationwide union.
Do you even understand what came about to get us to this point? That situation would not have happened if there was a way to go across company lines with longevity and seniority if your went out of business and the other took over the aircraft.

You must look at the big picture and treat the disease and not just the symptom.
 

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apparently MORE THAN 1/3 of our pilot group was so scared they couldn't even log on or place a call to vote.

We got countless emails and phone calls reminding us to vote. WTF?

Meh, welcome to America.
 

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EGL above ARW?

Is that based on top CA rates or what?
 

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Congrats

Good move for XJT. I think you guys still have helped the company but still have one of the top paying contracts in the industry including work rules.

If you don't understand the XJT situation with the new CPA then quit bashing them for approving this temporary pay cut. The pilots did what they HAD to do and management did what they HAD to do by signining this cpa.

Hopefully with all groups approving the cuts then we will see better days ahead for XJT!
 
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