People actually brief what they're going to do with the stick shaker when entering moderate icing......??? Get real....
The whole, "they reacted like it was a tail stall" shtick is garbage. You could tell the FO saw the low airspeed. The Icing video specifically says tail stalls occur at speeds at the high end of the approach flap speed limitation, as the flap selection is made. Also, the shaker and pusher should not activate during a textbook tail stall. The nose never dropped either... I think it's more likely that the A/P was over trimming with the speed reduction and caused that initial pitch up at the shaker and A/P disconnect. That may have caused some temporary spacial disorientation and eventual F up in the recovery. Putting the flaps up was probably just a mistake induced by shock (nail in the coffin though). Can't explain the raising of the gear.... The captain not bumping the power with the props going max is the real mind blower.
This is an isolated incident. A tragedy at best. It will be used to bash us as a group; even by fellow pilots. It took 26 seconds from time of shaker to impact. However, regulators and management will try to use this as an excuse to control ALL of our time, both at work and home. We must use this as an opportunity to improve the profession, in memory of those lost, regardless of how we see them as aviators.
The whole, "they reacted like it was a tail stall" shtick is garbage. You could tell the FO saw the low airspeed. The Icing video specifically says tail stalls occur at speeds at the high end of the approach flap speed limitation, as the flap selection is made. Also, the shaker and pusher should not activate during a textbook tail stall. The nose never dropped either... I think it's more likely that the A/P was over trimming with the speed reduction and caused that initial pitch up at the shaker and A/P disconnect. That may have caused some temporary spacial disorientation and eventual F up in the recovery. Putting the flaps up was probably just a mistake induced by shock (nail in the coffin though). Can't explain the raising of the gear.... The captain not bumping the power with the props going max is the real mind blower.
This is an isolated incident. A tragedy at best. It will be used to bash us as a group; even by fellow pilots. It took 26 seconds from time of shaker to impact. However, regulators and management will try to use this as an excuse to control ALL of our time, both at work and home. We must use this as an opportunity to improve the profession, in memory of those lost, regardless of how we see them as aviators.