Writing things down

[Salukipilot4590]

For those that use the FMS scratchpad for taxi clearance, could you give me a example of your personal shorthand? I'm an FMS developer and looking at ways to use this input to improve the FMS capabilities.

Waterski 8019 taxi 4R via Golf, Bravo 10, Tango 8, short 25R, then behind American MD80.

FMS (Honeywell....paper on Universal):

--4R--G.B10.T8//25R...AA80

Sadly right as I got my system down...furloughed.

 

[OPECJet]

LOTS! of NJA guys write landing clearances in the scratchpad. No protocol for using the lights as an indicator. I even had one guy yell at me for not writing it in the scratchpad.

Write down what you need to stay out of trouble, just don't get in trouble writing it down.

 

[LazyLightnin']

I find that it helps to be looking at the airport diagram while receiving taxi instructions. Or you can make this job a lot harder than it really is and try to hurry and write stuff down, alleviating a lot of situation awareness.... Tunnel vision is cool, though.

 

[Salukipilot4590]

I find that it helps to be looking at the airport diagram while receiving taxi instructions. Or you can make this job a lot harder than it really is and try to hurry and write stuff down, alleviating a lot of situation awareness.... Tunnel vision is cool, though.

Airport diagram above the FMS when on ground.

FMS shorthand

???

Profit

 

[glasspilot]

When I'm flying with a guy who writes everything down I have two thoughts:

1. Great, this guys won't miss anything, and

2. Great, this guy is makeing us look retarded by missing calls.

My point is use common sense. When Ground says, "taxi to runway 2 via Alfa" they sort of expect a response within 2 or 3 seconds. When you take 10 seconds to write it down they end up coming back with, "xyz, how copy?"

As to you regional guys, most all of you are hub and spoke. The big airport is the hub and the small airports with easy taxi routes are outside. After a few months on the job the "hub" should be second nature. The outstations should be VERY simple routes. Nobody is getting, "taxi to 25C via T8, T, R3, C, YY, Z" at an outstation.

Wanna write it down? Fine, I'm not gonna stop you. But for the love of God please respond with, "Taxi to Runway 27 via Alfa" within a couple seconds or we both look stupid.

Disclaimer: There are two of us and I would never move the plane unless we were both sure of where we were supposed to be going. If either of us have any doubt I stop and we querry ATC. I'm just saying please respond first to simple taxi clearances and then write it down. If it's long and drawn out (you can foresee that instance by a quick look at the airport diagram) then please do write it down on your little sheet of paper on the yoke clip or the FMS scratchpad or whatever.

As always, Fly Safe.

 

[silver02ex]

I write down clearance and long taxi instructions. If it's something simple and the same route i've done many times like "K10, Y, 22L" I won't bother.

 

[CX880]

I find that it helps to be looking at the airport diagram while receiving taxi instructions. .

That's a good idea. It also helps to have studid the airport diagram preferably before approach briefing. It's surprising that many people don't include the taxi as part of the approach briefing.