"With you"

[stratus72]

Actually I am. My F/Os laugh at all the stupid stuff I point out that people do and most of them say they never thought of it ..........and that I was right.

Man, get a freakin' life. "Any chance" your FO's are just kissing your A$$ b/c you create such a dismal atmosphere in the flight deck? Often times people nod thier heads and agree just to get someone to shut the hell up. I'd hate to see what you'd b'e like if they disagreed with you. Am I "with you?" Is it sinking in?

 

[Smacktard]

I suppose you think this is what a good aviator should be.

I did IOE with a CA a year ago who always talked about "proper radio phraseology". He never used slang on the radio, and anyone who did was "begging for a violation". He was lecturing me one day about radio calls, when, all of the sudden, he had to replace batteries on his noise canceling headset. At 30 degrees of bank and 150ft off of assigned alt. I had to take the plane until he finished replacing his batteries for his precious noise canceling headset. Instead of 25 hrs of IOE he did 40. I bet you and him would get along great. With priorities as messed up as yours it’s scary that you ever made captain.

I kept you in mind when I flew today, I used "4.6" 133and a quarter" "climbing 41 and a half for 43" "good morning" "any chance of" "on and hold" "gooday"(with an aussie accent) and "with you" about 50 times, in the hopes you would be listening somewhere. I think when approach tells me to follow traffic for the runway tomorrow I'll read back, "lining up for the cattle drive for rwy 26" Maybe I'll even throw a 30 second uuuuuuhhhhh uuuuummmm in there for ya.

For the record, when your FOs laugh, they are thinking "I better laugh at this dork or he is gonna make this a long miserable flight/tour".

Throw in a 'dude' and 'giggity' and you're set man! Good work!

 

[eatme]

Sounds like you dudes need to get a life

 

[SennaP1]

Just "Checkin' In"

This thread sucks.

"Hasta...La"

 

[Max Q]

5 Pages? Really?

-Brett

 

[Goose Egg]

Thanks for dusting this old thread off. I wrote some stuff in the earlier part back when I was a CFI, and I have to kind of laugh at myself for what I thought back then.

Now, I don't even "hear" people say "with you" any more. I mean, they definitely say it, but it never registers as anything but somebody talking on the radio. I still don't really say "with you" ever, but I definitely say my share of things like "twenty-four nine" and "thirty three nothin'" along with a big fat SEE YAAA whenever I can work it in. I think I even said "sweet" on the ramp control freq the other day. It was fun (and so rare that I have occasion!)

And I didn't believe it when this thread was new, but after having given out plenty of those courtesy laughs (all the while thinking "man this guys is tense" or "its going to be a long four days"), I finally see what you all have been talking about. If nothing else it has solidified how I'm NOT going to be as a captain!

-Goose

 

[rumorhasit]

Aw 2007 the good ol' days, when airlines where lieing and saying they made money. And Hiring 300 hr wonder pilots because of a "pilot shortage"!!!

 

[Flybet3]

Professional pilots sound like student pilots when they use "with you" in their initial transmissions to ATC. Here's a clue -- ATC knows you are "with them" by the fact you are talking to them! It's redundant and a waste of radio time....especially the stupid "checking in with you". Try dropping the "with you" crap and sound a bit more professional and like you've flown in other parts of the world. Next time you hear "with you" consider how stupid it sounds....and is. It's just a bad habit.

Also...drop the "Any chance..." when what you really meant to do is request something. i.e. "Comair 123 requesting direct xyz".

I bet you have a very tiny tiny penis... How's that for student?

 

[Flybet3]

Oh by the way I say the "with you" a lot. But from now on really listen up on the radio and you might hear my new check in " Center, checking in with you, waaazuuuuuuuup doooooog???!"

 

[highsky]

So would it be OK for an ATC controller to use his own forms of "unique, fun slang, and personalisms" into his communications with pilots? Would you appreciate that?

I can tell you what I appreciate: Anywhere I go IN THE WORLD, ATC controllers sound the same. I'll tell you what: when it's at night, in the weather, and in a third world country (or anywhere in the U.S.), that's a good thing. I know what they expect, and I know what's expected of me.

I don't have time to screw around with anything else. I don't want controllers to try and get "cute" with their own jargon or colloquialisms. I want to hear, AND GIVE, communications that are succinct, clear, and UNDERSTANDABLE, without question. The ONLY way to do that is to adhere to the standard phraseology of the AIM; ICAO; 7110.65 Pilot/Controller Glossary. It's not glamorous; it's not cute; BUT IT'S SAFE. And that's what matters.

So get over yourself. You're not cute. Your'e not amusing. You're not cool. You're just a 'doosh' for deviating from the Pilot/Controller glossary and jeopardizing the safety of yourself, your passengers, and everyone else in the airspace around you.

Try reading some of the perspectives of Don Brown, a 20+ year Atlanta ARTCC controller. Maybe then, you'll appreciate what the guy on the other end of the radio has to say about this subject.

http://www.avweb.com/news/sayagain/

 

[Goose Egg]

Try reading some of the perspectives of Don Brown, a 20+ year Atlanta ARTCC controller. Maybe then, you'll appreciate what the guy on the other end of the radio has to say about this subject.

That article had absolutely nothing to do with the pilot/controller phraseology.

Come on man. We all know that there's definitely times where you have to keep it standard, and then times when you can relax a bit. The trouble with some guys is that they can't tell the difference, and so they always default to one or the other.

-Goose

 

[SLUF4]

http://www.avweb.com/news/sayagain/192912-1.html

That one talks about phraseology, but we have bigger problems to worry about these days. I'd call myself a pretty standard radio operator, but it's funny to me how some people get their panties all riled up about a few words extra.

 

[prtyprtyprncss]

So would it be OK for an ATC controller to use his own forms of "unique, fun slang, and personalisms" into his communications with pilots? Would you appreciate that?

I can tell you what I appreciate: Anywhere I go IN THE WORLD, ATC controllers sound the same. I'll tell you what: when it's at night, in the weather, and in a third world country (or anywhere in the U.S.), that's a good thing. I know what they expect, and I know what's expected of me.

I don't have time to screw around with anything else. I don't want controllers to try and get "cute" with their own jargon or colloquialisms. I want to hear, AND GIVE, communications that are succinct, clear, and UNDERSTANDABLE, without question. The ONLY way to do that is to adhere to the standard phraseology of the AIM; ICAO; 7110.65 Pilot/Controller Glossary. It's not glamorous; it's not cute; BUT IT'S SAFE. And that's what matters.

So get over yourself. You're not cute. Your'e not amusing. You're not cool. You're just a 'doosh' for deviating from the Pilot/Controller glossary and jeopardizing the safety of yourself, your passengers, and everyone else in the airspace around you.

Try reading some of the perspectives of Don Brown, a 20+ year Atlanta ARTCC controller. Maybe then, you'll appreciate what the guy on the other end of the radio has to say about this subject.

http://www.avweb.com/news/sayagain/

Yep...tiny

 

[Hollywood82]

Yep...tiny

You also forgot: big watch wearing, E6B toting, knee board using, fat rolls hanging over the armrest, wears his uniform on days off, "hey everybody I'm a pilot" dork!

 

[highsky]

Yep...tiny

Evidently you spend time thinking about other men's genitals.