Window busted on takeoff roll

[banned username 2]

Yea, it's backwards Falcon. It shouldn't be that way...but how the heck are guys supposed to get multi time?

Uh, being an MEI perhaps??? When I left being a CFI I had well over 500 hours of multi time... I didn't pay for any but about the first 50 (which was during my own training, Private Multi, Commercial Instrument Multi, MEI)... Whenever possible, let someone else pay the bills!

 

[rumpletumbler]

You know...if you look at the title of this post like a little out of focus it looks like it says..."Widow busted on takeoff roll!"

 

[EDUC8-or]

Go Dawgs

Yeah, and what's this guy's problem going to SIU? What kind of loser goes to school in Carbondale?

 

[Angus]

P.S. I'm sorry my definition of "charter" is not the same as yours.

That was a question I was going to ask.. What is YOUR definition of Charter?? I didn't realize that there were several definitions.

Let me ask you this...... if a Rat starts showing up regularly at your backdoor, and you put a cat collar on it, feed it cat food, put cat littler out for it, and name it "Kitty"....... is it a cat or is it still a Rat?? My definition is that its still a friggin' Rat.

 

[A Squared]

P.S. I'm sorry my definition of "charter" is not the same as yours.

If your definition of "charter" is different than the definition the whole rest of the world is using, it might be time to reconsider your use of the word.

 

[aeronautic1]

Why do Scotsmen wear kilts?

A: "cause sheep can hear a zipper at 50 meters.

 

[DGdaPilot]

I shouldn't be entering back into this conversation, but if it truly is PFT, then why isn't every other course at SIU? In AF203 and AF204, you just basically do a bunch of solo work to build time. You log PIC, you're not taking a job from anyone, it's part 91, we're "bankrolling SIU", and you pay money for it. So what's the difference? So is SIU just one big PFT school. I think not.

Ok, the real name of the course is: AF304 Flight Practicum. Instead of us walking around all day saying that, we merely refer to it as "charter". You guys really need to lay off the caffeine.

 

[DGdaPilot]

If PFT is just paying to fly, then yes, it's PFT.

But I think we all know that PFT is paying for a job (not a class) and cutting in line in front of another pilot that would normally be paid for the job. This just isn't the case for this class. Oh yes, that's right, don't forget it's still only a COLLEGE CLASS. If you don't want to pay the money, then don't. You shouldn't go around putting your ugly faces into other peoples' checkbooks.

I used to have a lot of respect for this site and it's posters but I'm being proved wrong more and more with each ignorant uniformed post.

 

[rfeathe1]

cracked windows

Had the same thing happen to me on TO in a depressurized Convair freighter, only it didn't crack, it crazed. Hundreds of tiny cracks suddenly appeared. Called back & got maintenance on the radio. Wouldnt you know it--they blamed it on the crew--said we put the heat on high when we first turned it on. BULL**CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED**!!! Thats exactly what I told them on the company frequency.

 

[DGdaPilot]

I'll be sure to check your story with the pilots tomorrow.

 

[User546]

... but if it truly is PFT, then why isn't every other course at SIU? In AF203 and AF204, you just basically do a bunch of solo work to build time. You log PIC, you're not taking a job from anyone, it's part 91, we're "bankrolling SIU", and you pay money for it. So what's the difference?

Because AF203 & 204 is SOLO work that doesn't effect anyone else out there.

The "charter" course you keep referring to isn't. Your PAYING ($6,000 I might add) to occupy a seat which a pilot should be GETTING paid to sit/fly in. Instead of the school paying for a career pilot to make a living flying right seat, they're getting you to PAY THEM to fill that same seat - thus taking away another possibility of employment for a career pilot looking for work.

That by most all definitions if PFT.

 

[User546]

Heck, maybe I should go down to my buddy who owns a Falcon 50 tomorrow and tell him I'll give him $25,000 to let me fly 50 hours right seat. I bet he'd jump at that proposition! Free money for me keeping a seat warm for a few measely flight hours.

Probably wouldn't sit real well with the First Officer either when he's losing 50 hours of paycheck.

 

[DGdaPilot]

Because AF203 & 204 is SOLO work that doesn't effect anyone else out there.

The "charter" course you keep referring to isn't. Your PAYING ($6,000 I might add) to occupy a seat which a pilot should be GETTING paid to sit/fly in. Instead of the school paying for a career pilot to make a living flying right seat, they're getting you to PAY THEM to fill that same seat - thus taking away another possibility of employment for a career pilot looking for work.

That by most all definitions if PFT.

No you idjut, it's pt. 91. There's only 1 pilot required and they're paying the charter pilots. sheeshus

 

[User546]

What the heck is an "idjut" ? That's great!

So are you logging this PIC or SIC since its a single-pilot airplane - and your not required to be there? I know the 421 is a single pilot airplane, I've got more then a few hours in them. But my point is, if they want a pilot in that seat so bad, they should pay someone to do it, not let someone pay them too.

And what "charter pilots" are you referring to in your last sentence? The ones that sit left-seat and actually makes a living do this?

 

[DGdaPilot]

excuse me, but I log pic and i seat left seat. Period. They don't want a pilot in a seat SO bad. They (SIU and the department) say "hey, we've got an empty seat in the cockpit, so let's put a select enrollment class in place where some students will get some valuable PIC time and learn how to operate in a customer carrying environment." Despite what you think, this CLASS was created not for the intention of money, but for opening opportunities for students. Think what you will, I don't care. I'm doing it, I love it, and you actually never did give me any useful help as to what caused our window problem.