Window busted on takeoff roll

[banned username 2]

Yea, it's backwards Falcon. It shouldn't be that way...but how the heck are guys supposed to get multi time?

Uh, being an MEI perhaps??? When I left being a CFI I had well over 500 hours of multi time... I didn't pay for any but about the first 50 (which was during my own training, Private Multi, Commercial Instrument Multi, MEI)... Whenever possible, let someone else pay the bills!

 

[rumpletumbler]

You know...if you look at the title of this post like a little out of focus it looks like it says..."Widow busted on takeoff roll!"

 

[EDUC8-or]

Go Dawgs

Yeah, and what's this guy's problem going to SIU? What kind of loser goes to school in Carbondale?

 

[Angus]

P.S. I'm sorry my definition of "charter" is not the same as yours.

That was a question I was going to ask.. What is YOUR definition of Charter?? I didn't realize that there were several definitions.

Let me ask you this...... if a Rat starts showing up regularly at your backdoor, and you put a cat collar on it, feed it cat food, put cat littler out for it, and name it "Kitty"....... is it a cat or is it still a Rat?? My definition is that its still a friggin' Rat.

 

[A Squared]

P.S. I'm sorry my definition of "charter" is not the same as yours.

If your definition of "charter" is different than the definition the whole rest of the world is using, it might be time to reconsider your use of the word.

 

[aeronautic1]

Why do Scotsmen wear kilts?

A: "cause sheep can hear a zipper at 50 meters.

 

[DGdaPilot]

I shouldn't be entering back into this conversation, but if it truly is PFT, then why isn't every other course at SIU? In AF203 and AF204, you just basically do a bunch of solo work to build time. You log PIC, you're not taking a job from anyone, it's part 91, we're "bankrolling SIU", and you pay money for it. So what's the difference? So is SIU just one big PFT school. I think not.

Ok, the real name of the course is: AF304 Flight Practicum. Instead of us walking around all day saying that, we merely refer to it as "charter". You guys really need to lay off the caffeine.

 

[DGdaPilot]

If PFT is just paying to fly, then yes, it's PFT.

But I think we all know that PFT is paying for a job (not a class) and cutting in line in front of another pilot that would normally be paid for the job. This just isn't the case for this class. Oh yes, that's right, don't forget it's still only a COLLEGE CLASS. If you don't want to pay the money, then don't. You shouldn't go around putting your ugly faces into other peoples' checkbooks.

I used to have a lot of respect for this site and it's posters but I'm being proved wrong more and more with each ignorant uniformed post.

 

[rfeathe1]

cracked windows

Had the same thing happen to me on TO in a depressurized Convair freighter, only it didn't crack, it crazed. Hundreds of tiny cracks suddenly appeared. Called back & got maintenance on the radio. Wouldnt you know it--they blamed it on the crew--said we put the heat on high when we first turned it on. BULL**CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED**!!! Thats exactly what I told them on the company frequency.

 

[DGdaPilot]

I'll be sure to check your story with the pilots tomorrow.

 

[User546]

... but if it truly is PFT, then why isn't every other course at SIU? In AF203 and AF204, you just basically do a bunch of solo work to build time. You log PIC, you're not taking a job from anyone, it's part 91, we're "bankrolling SIU", and you pay money for it. So what's the difference?

Because AF203 & 204 is SOLO work that doesn't effect anyone else out there.

The "charter" course you keep referring to isn't. Your PAYING ($6,000 I might add) to occupy a seat which a pilot should be GETTING paid to sit/fly in. Instead of the school paying for a career pilot to make a living flying right seat, they're getting you to PAY THEM to fill that same seat - thus taking away another possibility of employment for a career pilot looking for work.

That by most all definitions if PFT.

 

[User546]

Heck, maybe I should go down to my buddy who owns a Falcon 50 tomorrow and tell him I'll give him $25,000 to let me fly 50 hours right seat. I bet he'd jump at that proposition! Free money for me keeping a seat warm for a few measely flight hours.

Probably wouldn't sit real well with the First Officer either when he's losing 50 hours of paycheck.

 

[DGdaPilot]

Because AF203 & 204 is SOLO work that doesn't effect anyone else out there.

The "charter" course you keep referring to isn't. Your PAYING ($6,000 I might add) to occupy a seat which a pilot should be GETTING paid to sit/fly in. Instead of the school paying for a career pilot to make a living flying right seat, they're getting you to PAY THEM to fill that same seat - thus taking away another possibility of employment for a career pilot looking for work.

That by most all definitions if PFT.

No you idjut, it's pt. 91. There's only 1 pilot required and they're paying the charter pilots. sheeshus

 

[User546]

What the heck is an "idjut" ? That's great!

So are you logging this PIC or SIC since its a single-pilot airplane - and your not required to be there? I know the 421 is a single pilot airplane, I've got more then a few hours in them. But my point is, if they want a pilot in that seat so bad, they should pay someone to do it, not let someone pay them too.

And what "charter pilots" are you referring to in your last sentence? The ones that sit left-seat and actually makes a living do this?

 

[DGdaPilot]

excuse me, but I log pic and i seat left seat. Period. They don't want a pilot in a seat SO bad. They (SIU and the department) say "hey, we've got an empty seat in the cockpit, so let's put a select enrollment class in place where some students will get some valuable PIC time and learn how to operate in a customer carrying environment." Despite what you think, this CLASS was created not for the intention of money, but for opening opportunities for students. Think what you will, I don't care. I'm doing it, I love it, and you actually never did give me any useful help as to what caused our window problem.

 

[The_Russian]

Pft Pft Pft Pft Pft Stfu Mf'ers

Geez, you guys don't give anyone a break. Guy come on to tell his story and ask a question and you beat him up because he bought some time in a twin cessna. Go eat one you little babies.

here come some more..........

 

[User546]

Allright, I digress... but only because the feared Lenin demanded it. No use getting sent off to frigid Siberia for this one.

 

[minitour]

No you idjut, it's pt. 91. There's only 1 pilot required and they're paying the charter pilots. sheeshus

So if they're paying the charter pilot, and it's a single pilot plane......doesn't that make you a passenger?

-mini

 

[CSY Mon]

excuse me, but I log pic and i seat left seat. Period

Hmm, what does the insurance company think about that?

Do you really sign for the airplane and keep the responsibilty for the flight. or do ya have a baby-sitter in the right seat that is the "Real" PIC...?

I have done office duty in the past and looked over the stack of resumes that kept piling up.
If a low time dude with 300 hours claimed a bunch of PIC time in crafts that would normally require a 3000 hour pilot on the pay-roll, ya knew it was fake and the resume went in the trash basket.,,No questions asked.

So be careful out there, it should look real, otherwise ya are wasting yer money.

Way back when, I spent my 2.5K dough paying training and the checkride for a DC-3 type rating.
Got hired in the right seat of a 3, , and a few months later flew left side.

Figured that every chiref pilot in the business knew what a DC-3 was, and that ya could not pencil in a rating.

Guess it worked, next job was a DC-8.
200 hours later, the 747 job came around..Meal ticket for life.

So, uh like the other guys on this thread said: Don't blow good money logging twin time, that will always come with a pay-check.
Hows about getting a Citation rating instead?

No, it is not quite "Pay for Training" like the boys over at Gulfstream, there ya get hired 'cause ya paid for the mandatory 135 training, (They probably call it 121 these days?)
Ya don't pay, ya don't get hired, ya don't fly.

Paying for a rating that stays on yer ticket for life can open more doors and be a better investment....The 135 ground school and simulator are only good for that particular company.
Then ya got to pay the next company, etc.....

Any type rating looks better on the resume as it proved ya can pass a high performance course and check ride, whereas anybody can log time in a C-421 for money, even my granny and her blind dog...

 

[SiuDude]

So if they're paying the charter pilot, and it's a single pilot plane......doesn't that make you a passenger?

-mini

Yes, but the paid pilot is a babysitter. The student flies the thing AND talks on the radio.

 

[minitour]

Yes, but the paid pilot is a babysitter. The student flies the thing AND talks on the radio.

they get to talk on the radio!?!?

Sign me up!

 

[SiuDude]

they get to talk on the radio!?!?

Sign me up!

No problem. Just PM me your credit card number.

 

[minitour]

No problem. Just PM me your credit card number.

LMAO

Maybe if I just put it in the thread I'll get more call backs???

*thinking*
...will I get stripes too???

-mini

 

[Angus]

Geez, you guys don't give anyone a break. Guy come on to tell his story and ask a question and you beat him up because he bought some time in a twin cessna. Go eat one you little babies.

LOL!! Spoken from someone who thinks GIA is "the way to go"!!

Are you still an FO at Gulfstream there Sparky??

How much of Daddy's money did you spend??

 

[F16TJ]

Back on track...

I've never had a cracked windshield, but once on an F111F functional check flight, I got a "Canopy" light at 49,750 feet and 2.2 Mach! Me and the pilot I was flying with, we kind of looked at each other and then looked at our canopy handles, then looked at each other again and we both lowered our seats without speaking a word to each other. Like that was going to help at 49,000 feet and 2.2M! We slowed down and the light went out at about 44,000 and it never came on again. Maintenance CND'ed it.

 

[The_Russian]

You are an idiot, and an A$$!

LOL!! Spoken from someone who thinks GIA is "the way to go"!!

Are you still an FO at Gulfstream there Sparky??

How much of Daddy's money did you spend??

I think? I THINK? I know you moron. I have the proff because EVERYONE except for one person I HAVE EVER met at GIA is working for an airline. EVERY LAST FCUKING ONE OF THEM.

So what if I am an FO at GIA. Ill be in CPT class this month. And well earned with six years of hard work.

Wow, I spent daddy's money, sure. YOU A$$HOLE. My father is a A&P for a corporate gig. Where's the money at???? I paid for all my flight training with loans, scholorships I EARNED, and my wallet.

You know, you are a real peice of sh!t.

 

[Angus]

I think? I THINK? I know you moron. I have the proff because EVERYONE except for one person I HAVE EVER met at GIA is working for an airline. EVERY LAST FCUKING ONE OF THEM.

So what if I am an FO at GIA. Ill be in CPT class this month. And well earned with six years of hard work.

Wow, I spent daddy's money, sure. YOU A$$HOLE. My father is a A&P for a corporate gig. Where's the money at???? I paid for all my flight training with loans, scholorships I EARNED, and my wallet.

You know, you are a real peice of sh!t.

Then why the anger and hostility? Usually this type of hostility is a sign of guilt and frustration for poor decision making.

It was 2 simple questions. Maybe some anger management will go a long ways. With that type of explosive attitude... YOU might cause a window to shatter.

Congratulations on the 6 years it took to make Capt on the King Air 350 (Beech 1900) . What is the pay at GIA on the B-1900 after 6 years? How much do you still owe is probably the more relevant question..??

 

[The_Russian]

You still don't shut up do you.

I dont think you understand how frustrating this is. Every time I post on this board someone has to SH!T on me about GIA. Go FCUK yourself. I don't regret any decision I made except that I should have done it 6 years earlier!

Not many people make CPT on any airliner that fast and especially since I am only 24! GIA also has the highest industry rate on the 1900 for all years seniority and position.

Who the he!! do you work for anyway? You haven't brought that up since I've seen you post on here. Maybe it would shed some light on why YOU are so angry and have to bash other peoples lives on a faceless forum.

BTW it is a completely different aircraft than the 350. Fcuking idiot.

 

[The_Russian]

GIA folks don't deserve this sh!t. We are good people.

 

[Angus]

Posted on another thread..

Ban him. I second the motion. He pokes fun at others personal lives and career choices. He is immature and only directs hate and flame wars toward others on a faceless forum. Things he could never say to another persons face. He is disrespectful in all ways.

Good luck to you Angus. You don't deserve to hold the rank of "Fellow Pilot".

I should be banned for that?? LOL! At least I have the emotional maturity to hold a normal unemotional dialogue.... and do not have to use profanity and censor avoidance to make my points.... which apparently by your spasms..... my points are quite succinct and close to home.

I think if we take your profanity laden censor avoiding posts and post them in chronological order..... it would define "disrespectful".

You may not like or agree with my opinion... and thats fine... but I can still choose to air them. PFT is a hot button topic... and the fact YOU chose to go that route... well I think you will find the VAST majority of these forums will disagree. Should 95% of the forum membership be banned for that belief. It would be a pretty quiet and boring site... thats for sure. How about we ban EVERYONE that disagrees with anything that comes out of that sticky keyboard of yours??

Sorry there Spaz... I disagree.


Bu Bye.