Will the Fractional guys ever be a part of Crewpass?

[General Lee]

When and if CREWPASS ever comes to fruition, will the Netjets and other Frac guys be a part of it? That sure would be nice for you.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[doh]

I haven't been paying any attention to this. What is it? Will it affect my Platinum status if I use it? Because I do not want to have to wait to board with the airline folk and I want my upgrades and exit row window seats.

 

[Willy21]

I doubt it. We are considered paying customers. It would be nice and it would also save the TSA time and resources. We go through the same background checks and finger printing as the 121 crews do.

 

[ExecJetCA]

I remember hearing that back in 07-08 time frame that our Union and company were working on CASS. If I remember right it was to be the ground floor to get into CrewPass. Once the economy turned south it was probably put on the back burner.

 

[gunfyter]

My understanding is the security training is not compliant with CASS requirements

 

[gutshotdraw]

At the rate they're going, CrewPass will never happen anyway. That's what they call a moot point.

 

[ozpilot]

That's what they call a moot point.

Actually its a Moo point - as in a cows opinion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ifdqEmlx-I

 

[fischman]

At the rate they're going, CrewPass will never happen anyway. That's what they call a moot point.

Are you sure it's not "mute"? Like a cow with no tongue?

 

[FLYLOW22]

When and if CREWPASS ever comes to fruition, will the Netjets and other Frac guys be a part of it? That sure would be nice for you.


Bye Bye--General Lee

I don't personally see the need to push for it.

I like it fine waiting for my turn... Longer wait times equal more duty. More duty equals more pay.

Plus, as a top tier customer on 3 airlines, I usually slide through the express lane anyway... Which is the same used by crew.

No worries here!!

 

[FLYLOW22]

I remember hearing that back in 07-08 time frame that our Union and company were working on CASS. If I remember right it was to be the ground floor to get into CrewPass. Once the economy turned south it was probably put on the back burner.

Part of the 10 yr plan... Ha!!!

 

[jonjuan]

I don't personally see the need to push for it.

I like it fine waiting for my turn... Longer wait times equal more duty. More duty equals more pay.

But what if it saved your company money by having it?

 

[fischman]

But what if it saved your company money by having it?

Like how? Deadheading? I haven't had to do that for 6 years now, but my understanding is that the airlines have cut back so much that getting on a flight you want is sometimes difficult to impossible.

I couldn't imagine inconveniencing an owner because I couldn't get a seat on an airline. I'll take my confirmed seat with an upgrade to first class so I make it on the flight and not have to worry about upsetting a multimillion dollar contract.

 

[Jim]

But what if it saved your company money by having it?

Are you talking CASS or CREWPASS?

If by this you mean jumpseating (CASS) instead of your company buying you a ticket to reposition, then you are breaking the rules.

At my airline, the jumpseat coordinator would get jumpseat privileges revoked for any company that used the jumpseat for company business travel. Further, jumpseat coordinators typically talk to each other and other airlines would quickly find out - making it difficult for any of your pilots who try to jumpseat legitimately.

 

[jonjuan]

Like how? Deadheading? I haven't had to do that for 6 years now, but my understanding is that the airlines have cut back so much that getting on a flight you want is sometimes difficult to impossible.

I couldn't imagine inconveniencing an owner because I couldn't get a seat on an airline. I'll take my confirmed seat with an upgrade to first class so I make it on the flight and not have to worry about upsetting a multimillion dollar contract.

No-he mentioned that he would rather take his time in the pax security line than going thru the crewpass line because doing so would make his day longer and thereby pay more (not sure I understand that one, however).

 

[FLYLOW22]

But what if it saved your company money by having it?

Mine is not to reason why. Mine is merely but to fly.

My input wasn't asked for anyway. (Sigh) Maybe on the new round of CEO change outs.

 

[OPECJet]

But what if it saved your company money by having it?

The only savings to the company I could see are reducing duty times (in some cases a considerable amount) by having the crew lines available. It could make a 1 hr show at all airports possible if crewpass were actually implemented.

Jim, CASS is a requirement of crewpass, which is why the union was pursuing it. There is no intention for NJA pilots to attempt to use airline jumpseats rather than buying tickets. I highly doubt the company would try it, and if they did, there are enough of us ex-airline guys around to put an abrupt end to it.

 

[glasspilot]

I highly doubt the company would try it, and if they did, there are enough of us ex-airline guys around to put an abrupt end to it.

That goes for all the fracs. It would never happen. I have thought of one possible use. Our chief pilots are based at HQ but can live anywhere. Commuting to HQ for work from home would be a legit use of a jumpseat.

Other than that it wouldn't work for moving crews to planes.

 

[Jim]

Sorry glasspilot, I worked at Avantair once upon a time. I won't put it pass S.S. from trying.

 

[glasspilot]

I wouldn't blame any business manager from thinking it would be a great way to save cash.

But S.S. never flew for an airline and may not know. Avantair does have ex-Airline guys (myself included) and that would never be allowed. I think that's what I said above when I agreed with the further above post that said exactly that.

 

[fischman]

I wouldn't blame any business manager from thinking it would be a great way to save cash.

But S.S. never flew for an airline and may not know. Avantair does have ex-Airline guys (myself included) and that would never be allowed. I think that's what I said above when I agreed with the further above post that said exactly that.

I'm not convinced it would save cash. Getting bumped off a flight and delaying an owner trip can be VERY expensive.