Will NWA and the Mechs agree?

[dbrownie]

Thats what I thought you think you said, what I said.

Huh?

You lost me.

Let me be more clear.

I have to pay dues because I am in a closed shop.
I do not object to this.
They are well worth it.
I am glad we are ALPA.

Dave B

 

[NuGuy]

Huh?

You lost me.

Let me be more clear.

I have to pay dues because I am in a closed shop.
I do not object to this.
They are well worth it.
I am glad we are ALPA.

Dave B

Man, I agree. ALPA is worth it for the legal and medical alone. The contract maintenence is just a bonus.

If you swap paint or bust a blood pressure reading, they are there for you %100.

If you have to pay an aviation/labor lawyer or a doctor to help protect your certificate or medical out of pocket, ALPA dues will seem like a bargan.

The docs and lawyers are full time professionals, not some volunteers, either.

Nu

 

[Dodge]

I agree with NuGuy. Pilots are the next to be outsourced. You say scope, aw, well just file for BK and get that wiped out or give all of you a 401k like every other American worker.

While I say this kind of tongue in cheek, dbrownie, get ready to pay a little less on the ALPA dues. It'll still be 1.95% (till they raise it to accomodate the race to the bottom) but the starting out number will be lower. Same for all the LCC pilots. There is always someone willing to do your job cheaper. Just look at the U.S border.

 

[dbrownie]

While I say this kind of tongue in cheek, dbrownie, get ready to pay a little less on the ALPA dues. It'll still be 1.95% (till they raise it to accomodate the race to the bottom) but the starting out number will be lower. Same for all the LCC pilots. There is always someone willing to do your job cheaper. Just look at the U.S border.

We have already taken our first round about 20%. The next one will be about
30% more. You are right about the race to the bottom.



Dave B

 

[WillowRunVortex]

Huh?

You lost me.

Let me be more clear.

I have to pay dues because I am in a closed shop.
I do not object to this.
They are well worth it.
I am glad we are ALPA.

Dave B

Man, I was messin with ya with gibberish, personally I'm set. And this whole thing is getting me tired. If you guys at NWA wanna see your airline self-destruct, great.

 

[Dodge]

We have already taken our first round about 20%. The next one will be about
30% more. You are right about the race to the bottom.



Dave B

Best of luck to all the NWA pilots.

 

[WillowRunVortex]

Best of luck to all the NWA pilots.

Yeah my bud, DC-9 Cap made $138,000. Now with the 15% cut he only makes 118,000. We have already set up a relief fund for him and his children. Deciding which children will go to what families in the neighborhood etc. Don't worry, we protect our own. They will be well taken care of.

 

[castle bravo]

Don't worry, we protect our own. They will be well taken care of.

You'll get a few real chuckles out of the furloughees on that one.

 

[castle bravo]

Seroiusly however, good luck to the NWA pilots.

 

[Workin'Stiff]

Judge rules Mesaba mechanics cannot strike
John Reinan, Star Tribune
August 20, 2005 MESABA0820.OLUPDATE


Union mechanics at Mesaba Aviation are forbidden from taking part in any strike, work stoppage or slowdown in support of Northwest Airlines mechanics, a federal judge ruled today.

U.S. District Judge David Doty issued a preliminary injunction and temporary restraining order that prevents Mesaba members of the Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association (AMFA) from joining in a potential strike at 11:01 tonight by more than 4,000 AMFA members at Northwest. There are about 270 AMFA members at Mesaba, which handles regional flights under contract with Northwest.

Doty ordered the union to give written, hand-delivered notice of his ruling to every mechanic and to take disciplinary action against any mechanic who violates it.

Also today, Northwest sought a similar injunction to prevent its flight attendants from launching a sympathy strike, sick-out or any other job action in support of a mechanics' strike. There was no ruling today on the injunction.

The Professional Flight Attendants Association, which represents about 10,000 Northwest flight attendants, is voting on whether to call a sympathy strike on behalf of the mechanics. Voting closed at 5 p.m. today, but the union has not released the results.

Northwest wants its flight attendants to take pay cuts averaging about 20 percent.

John Reinan is at [email protected].

http://www.startribune.com/stories/535/5569725.html

 

[miles otoole]

Yeah my bud, DC-9 Cap made $138,000. Now with the 15% cut he only makes 118,000. We have already set up a relief fund for him and his children. Deciding which children will go to what families in the neighborhood etc. Don't worry, we protect our own. They will be well taken care of.

Lovely-Do you realize that he makes more than the average doctor in the U.S.? Don't see too many of them complaining about selling kids to make ends meet. Hard to feel sorry for some guy making $118,000 a year. BTW, the average doctor is probably still paying for his education.

 

[WillowRunVortex]

Lovely-Do you realize that he makes more than the average doctor in the U.S.? Don't see too many of them complaining about selling kids to make ends meet. Hard to feel sorry for some guy making $118,000 a year. BTW, the average doctor is probably still paying for his education.

I was being sarcastic. You obviously got my point.

 

[Green]

Miles,



I think your doctor info is off. Probably an outdated salary survey.

 

[Green]

Pharmacists were quoted in the paper with salaries starting (that's right first year pay) at 85-95k. I would think doctors make significantly more than pharmacists. And yes I do believe everything i read in the USA today! lol

 

[Diesel-9]

MR Otoole. Actually that figure is low for a DC-9 Captain last year. What do you think is a fair salary? I flew that seat last year making much more than that. Every neighbor around me makes as much or more with jobs with significantly less responsibility and they certainly didn't go thru a screening process that myself and 9 classmates that were hired that month went thru. Most of us had or had credit towards a Masters Degrees with 2-3 years of military flight training. My brother in-law is a new Dr. making $350,000+ in his first year after 12+ years of school with a $140,000 loan. He plans to pay it off in 3-4 years. His pay willl double in 2 years.