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Why we are victims of the oil industry

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turbodriver said:
So you want to know why we're oil victims you say......

It's probably been said but I'll say it again.

Because a oil man in in the white house who won't explore new technology which will get us off the oil spigot.

Plain and simple.

That is such an uneducated and ill-informed statement that it is laughable.

It's not the government's job to go out and "explore" new technology dumbass. That's the job of the private sector. In case you didn't know we live in a Capitalistic country. Not the Socialist/Communist "Utopia" that I am sure you pray for every night.

Please go out and find some new material. The Liberal playbook is getting very very predictable.
 
The electric motor on the Civic Hybrid only provides assistance to the combustion engine, so it really only kicks in during high demand. The majority of the savings come from the little engine. The Toyotas may be different, but that's the way the Hondas are.
During stop and go, I have to hit 10 mph before the automatic engine shutoff kicks in. If I don't get up to that speed, the car will idle.
The electric motor provides lots of torque, so acceleration with a full car is very good.
The software upgrades are free from the Honda dealers. Usually they do it when I get an oil change, but I had a recall that required a software change too. Basically, it smoothed out the amount the electric motor kicked in so that there wasn't a jolt. Also, it improved mileage by making the electric motor take on more of a load.
 
USNFDX said:
Plane and Simple...You're a bunch of hypocrits

I didn't know it was the Gov't job to explore new technology. Again if you were true to your idealism.....$3.00 a gallon is good thing...it's good for the environment, and will spur R&D for alternative more enviromentaly friendly alternative energy sources.

You libs all for alternative sources, as long it's not your own backyard. What happend to the wind farm in Long Island Sound??????????

And I didn't know that it was the govt's job to implement policies to curb new technologies created by that same private capitalistic industry that you love so much. (ie: stem cells, "global warming doesn't exist so we can keep drilling) I'm sure that $3.00 per gal of gas is just the biggest incentive that big oil needs in order to wean us off oil. And that same private industry will get all kinds of gov't support in order to accomplish the goal of finding new energy sources that does not happen to be black gold that squirts out of the ground which is dug up by Bush's "base" I'm sure. You right wingers are just in the dark if you think that the gov't you helped elect is working for you. I also don't know about long island sound but there are wind farms a plenty out west. And what's this about not in my backyard? You righities are one to talk. As long as it’s not on your hunting ground, it’s ok. Please.
 
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Why is it the Presidents job to get us technology? Its our job to demand it, and if we dont, its out own fault. There is constantly new technology coming out that exists without presidential executive order as far as I can tell.

Its the job of oil companies to explore for oil, produce it, and refine it into various fuels and petroleum based components at market prices. Its not their job to find us ways of transport that do not involve them, that is our job. Oil companies do not keep anyone from carpooling, biking, walking, or driving efficient cars.

If the people arent demanding other fuels, then why it is anyone elses job? Have you ever blamed Kennedy, Kerry or Clinton?
 
414Flyer said:
Why is it the Presidents job to get us technology? Its our job to demand it, and if we dont, its out own fault. There is constantly new technology coming out that exists without presidential executive order as far as I can tell.

Its the job of oil companies to explore for oil, produce it, and refine it into various fuels and petroleum based components at market prices. Its not their job to find us ways of transport that do not involve them, that is our job. Oil companies do not keep anyone from carpooling, biking, walking, or driving efficient cars.

If the people arent demanding other fuels, then why it is anyone elses job? Have you ever blamed Kennedy, Kerry or Clinton?

No one has blamed them for one reason, we were not at peak oil when Kennedy or Clinton was in office. Kerry isn't a factor so I don't know why you brought him up. Fuel also didn't spike 100% in a year under Clinton either. So I'll admit, no one was worried about it. Gore did advocate research into alternative energy sources but look where it got him. Greedy Americans want their hot rods that get 10 MPG and 300+ horseys. That's why we're in this boat now.
 
turbodriver said:
No one has blamed them for one reason, we were not at peak oil when Kennedy or Clinton was in office. Kerry isn't a factor so I don't know why you brought him up. Fuel also didn't spike 100% in a year under Clinton either. So I'll admit, no one was worried about it. Gore did advocate research into alternative energy sources but look where it got him. Greedy Americans want their hot rods that get 10 MPG and 300+ horseys. That's why we're in this boat now.

yes I agree its our own demand for gas that has caused much of this. People think they have some god given right to some of the cheapest gas in the world, to drive as big of vehicle as possible and not ever thinking about that all that demand and wasting of gas does.

Why did I bring them up? Because people use this as an political issue to bash Bush, when the president, no matter who it is, or what party, has no control over world production, wholesale gas prices, or energy futures. Kerry is a powerful Senator, as is Clinton. They are influential people in the governent too, with the power to author bills. What bills have they authored? The president does not author bills and legistation.

About the only thing the federal government can do on its own, its to encourage conservation, and encourage increased production. As soon as you start getting a healthy gap in the oil production capacity, the price of crude comes down a lot.
 

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