Why some jetBlue pilots post such extreme negativity.

[clickclickboom]

So if i lowball the new insurance costs and assuming a 30 year career heres some non scientific quick math.

Assuming two kids

$3600 in premiums
$13,300 in max out of pocket and coinsurance plus deductible
$1500 in misc non coveredf items and reduced or cancelled prescription coverages.

$18,400 per year x 30 years $552,000

While you are paying said premiums first $8800 in costs comes out of your pocket before 1 penny comes from blue. Not to worry i am sure all of our super duper well paid better than regional pilots can take an $8800 out of pocket hit in the first quarter of the year.

Subtract $552,000 from your math above

Now we all knows its bull$hit numbers because blue will be the first airline to just cancel coverage alltogether within the next few years. Then your costs will double

Welcome to jetblue !!!

Now I am sure you single 20 year olds that just think blue is awesome will never get sick, get marries, or have kids and even if you do it doesnt matter because its a long way away and you dont have to worry about it.

Then one day you wake up and say holy $hit where did my pill popping ex flight attendant, neighbor blowing skank wife, 2 car payments, 3 kids, and $2000 mortgage come from. Go have a kid and find out how much it costs to give birth..

Then you will realize that you cant meet your goals, have invested almost 2 decades of your life building a career and it is crap with the exception of rates that on the outside have a nice shiny candy coating shell.

Dont worry its just inmaturity, inexperience, and selfishness and its not an insult just your current subconscious reality. I was there once life was great even given mediocrity my glass was overflowing just like yours..

 

[CapnVegetto]

So if i lowball the new insurance costs and assuming a 30 year career heres some non scientific quick math.

Assuming two kids

$3600 in premiums
$13,300 in max out of pocket and coinsurance plus deductible
$1500 in misc non coveredf items and reduced or cancelled prescription coverages.

$18,400 per year x 30 years $552,000

While you are paying said premiums first $8800 in costs comes out of your pocket before 1 penny comes from blue. Not to worry i am sure all of our super duper well paid better than regional pilots can take an $8800 out of pocket hit in the first quarter of the year.

Subtract $552,000 from your math above

Now we all knows its bull$hit numbers because blue will be the first airline to just cancel coverage alltogether within the next few years. Then your costs will double

Welcome to jetblue !!!

Now I am sure you single 20 year olds that just think blue is awesome will never get sick, get marries, or have kids and even if you do it doesnt matter because its a long way away and you dont have to worry about it.

Then one day you wake up and say holy $hit where did my pill popping ex flight attendant, neighbor blowing skank wife, 2 car payments, 3 kids, and $2000 mortgage come from. Go have a kid and find out how much it costs to give birth..

Then you will realize that you cant meet your goals, have invested almost 2 decades of your life building a career and it is crap with the exception of rates that on the outside have a nice shiny candy coating shell.

Dont worry its just inmaturity, inexperience, and selfishness and its not an insult just your current subconscious reality. I was there once life was great even given mediocrity my glass was overflowing just like yours..

Here you captains go again making a$$es out of yourselves assuming crap. Your logic fails miserably for many reasons. Here is a big one:

Maxing out 13K of insurance costs every single year for 30 years??? Really? Are you stupid? I've been married (to the same woman, unlike most of you losers), for years, and I've never even come close. I was on Blue care plus last year and didn't even meet THAT deductable. I have kids. I know what it costs to give birth.

I suppose I would pop pills if I were married to you, too. I have 2 cars that are paid for. My mortgage on my 2400 sf house in a nice neighborhood on a golf course is $1500, but that is on a 15 year note. My house will be paid for in a little over a decade.

I guess I'm just smarter than you. Maybe you baby boomers should stop whining and learn to take care of yourselves.

 

[Smarta$$]

Hence the use of "less than.

Why not less than 2000 days? Less than 2500? If accuracy isn't relevant at all?

 

[Splert]

Okay in less than 3000 days we will know if we add 4 deliveries in 2013.

What I have heard is that we will.

 

[geardown]

If someone in your family has a chronic health issue and lives that long, it could be very easy to do. Each year on Jan1 your JB insurance resets to zero as if you have never spent a cent. You start the spending all over again.

 

[CapnVegetto]

If someone in your family has a chronic health issue and lives that long, it could be very easy to do. Each year on Jan1 your JB insurance resets to zero as if you have never spent a cent. You start the spending all over again.

That is very true, but that guy was acting as if EVERYONE has that issue EVERY year. That is NOT the case in real life.

As I said earlier, do your own research an make your own decision. If you have a special needs child or something like that, JetBlue is a bad idea for no other reason than the bad health insurance. But to blanket everybody in that statement is stupid and incorrect.

 

[clickclickboom]

Here you captains go again making a$$es out of yourselves assuming crap. Your logic fails miserably for many reasons. Here is a big one:

Maxing out 13K of insurance costs every single year for 30 years??? Really? Are you stupid? I've been married (to the same woman, unlike most of you losers), for years, and I've never even come close. I was on Blue care plus last year and didn't even meet THAT deductable. I have kids. I know what it costs to give birth.

I suppose I would pop pills if I were married to you, too. I have 2 cars that are paid for. My mortgage on my 2400 sf house in a nice neighborhood on a golf course is $1500, but that is on a 15 year note. My house will be paid for in a little over a decade.

I guess I'm just smarter than you. Maybe you baby boomers should stop whining and learn to take care of yourselves.

Man you bit like a hobo on a ham sandwich... Baby Boomer? Dude i'm 35 years old

Anybody that is even remotely considering this place PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do your research. Industry experts and consultants have evaluated our insurance offerings and concluded that while the trend is in line with some other corporations operating in the USA within the airline industry we have the absolute worst coverage. Considering that there are a multitude of seemingly minor medical issues that would have no bearing on traditional careers, those same issues could end your flying career and ability to support your family.

Captain V above is not completely wrong because his LAST YEAR Crew Care Plus was our top plan and did have reasonably good coverage BUT what he fails to mention as he insuinates that i am an idiot is that the plan he was on is GONE !!! His costs will go up considerably he is just ignorant because he simply doesnt know the facts. His attitude is that it hasnt happened to me so it wont happen and everyone else is a dumbas$.

I dont hate jb i love my job but there is a fast track agenda to cut employee costs to the bone and extract efficiencies that cost you more. All the while paying millions to MWK group to manage your expectations and produce an apathetic employee just like you read above from captv

 

[CapnVegetto]

Man you bit like a hobo on a ham sandwich... Baby Boomer? Dude i'm 35 years old

Anybody that is even remotely considering this place PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do your research. Industry experts and consultants have evaluated our insurance offerings and concluded that while the trend is in line with some other corporations operating in the USA within the airline industry we have the absolute worst coverage. Considering that there are a multitude of seemingly minor medical issues that would have no bearing on traditional careers, those same issues could end your flying career and ability to support your family.

Captain V above is not completely wrong because his LAST YEAR Crew Care Plus was our top plan and did have reasonably good coverage BUT what he fails to mention as he insuinates that i am an idiot is that the plan he was on is GONE !!! His costs will go up considerably he is just ignorant because he simply doesnt know the facts. His attitude is that it hasnt happened to me so it wont happen and everyone else is a dumbas$.

I dont hate jb i love my job but there is a fast track agenda to cut employee costs to the bone and extract efficiencies that cost you more. All the while paying millions to MWK group to manage your expectations and produce an apathetic employee just like you read above from captv

Once again, we have a guy that apparently failed at reading/comprehension in the 5th grade.

I said I was on Blue Care Plus last year. I said I didn't meet the deductable, well I actually screwed that up. I didn't meet the max oop, which was $750 bucks. BC Plus was actually VERY good insurance, but it was extremely expensive, to the tune of about $700 a month for family coverage. It was and is worth it to me, because I would rather pay more for the 'Cadillac' plan an never have to worry about the expenses.

Will I save money this year? Depends on whether or not anybody gets real sick. My monthly premiums are cut in half, (about $350 a month for family), but now my coverage sucks. If someone gets seriously sick, I'm gonna be out a lot of money. If nobody gets sick, I'm gonna save about $3k. I guess it's just a roll of the dice.

Those are the unbiased facts. I'm really not disagreeing with this guy, he just keeps trying to stir $hit up for some reason. The new health insurance SUCKS. I'm not arguing that. I'm not arguing against ALPA either, although he can't seem to figure that out. I'm just arguing against morons that think this place is akin to working in a Vietnamese Nike sweatshop, namely pathetic, titty baby senior captains that can't do anything but bitch.

Oh, and it's MWW group by the way. You can read all about them and any PR group on the net. I HATE PR. Basically they lie for a living. There is a special place in hell for PR people, I honestly believe.

 

[B6Busdriver]

Here you captains go again making a$$es out of yourselves assuming crap. Your logic fails miserably for many reasons. Here is a big one:

Maxing out 13K of insurance costs every single year for 30 years??? Really? Are you stupid? I've been married (to the same woman, unlike most of you losers), for years, and I've never even come close. I was on Blue care plus last year and didn't even meet THAT deductable. I have kids. I know what it costs to give birth.

I suppose I would pop pills if I were married to you, too. I have 2 cars that are paid for. My mortgage on my 2400 sf house in a nice neighborhood on a golf course is $1500, but that is on a 15 year note. My house will be paid for in a little over a decade.

I guess I'm just smarter than you. Maybe you baby boomers should stop whining and learn to take care of yourselves.

What happens when you ASSume? I am 43, been at JetBlue 10 years, 1 wife, no toys and money in the bank. What a tool you are.

 

[B6Busdriver]

Please watch.... Learn about JetBlue's direct relationship.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36YiO1scuZM

 

[banger]

Heard another jetblue pilot was fired. With no recourse or due process. Maybe it was justified? maybe not? but he has no options. I guess he could hire his own lawyer and slug it out against the corporation for a few years. How many is that in the last 6 months?

 

[aewanabe]

Heard another jetblue pilot was fired. With no recourse or due process. Maybe it was justified? maybe not? but he has no options. I guess he could hire his own lawyer and slug it out against the corporation for a few years. How many is that in the last 6 months?

3 that I'm aware of. All well- known ALPA supporters. Don't have the whole scoop so I've reserved judgment, but on the face of it the trend line sucks.

 

[CapnVegetto]

What happens when you ASSume? I am 43, been at JetBlue 10 years, 1 wife, no toys and money in the bank. What a tool you are.

Right. All of you say that. That's the beauty of the Internet: you can be anyone you want.

 

[Smarta$$]

Heard another jetblue pilot was fired. With no recourse or due process. Maybe it was justified? maybe not? but he has no options. I guess he could hire his own lawyer and slug it out against the corporation for a few years. How many is that in the last 6 months?

What was the reason? Allegedly at least.

 

[B6Busdriver]

Right. All of you say that. That's the beauty of the Internet: you can be anyone you want.

Oh yeah, I'll be 44 this year cartoon boy.