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Woah, who's touchy now? Lighten up, Francis.

Now that you turned the sarcasm off, though, it's nice to see your true feelings about fighter guys come out. No, that's not my call sign and I don't use it at the airline. In fact, I don't bring up what I do outside the airline unless someone asks.

I agree about an all volunteer military. I've never asked for kudos from anyone, least of all a bitter airline guy who's dad flew fighters. Bombing neighborhoods? Nice...yet more evidence that you don't know what you're talking about and a slap in the face of every guy who's been asked to go hit targets under tough circumstances.

I don't think he was "stroking himself" on TV. The reporter was asking the questions, and out of a 20 min interview you probably only got to see 2 minutes of it. And you'd be surprised about what PR officers tell us to say sometimes. Of course, you don't know...you're just going off what you've heard.

Further, our tanker pilots do much more than just fly in circles. Ask the -135 guy who air refueled dudes at 5K (at night, on NVGs, in hostile territory) over Aghanistan in 01.

Look, bro, you don't know s*** about me or what I think. You were throwing all kinds of jokes out about the USAF flying club or whatever and maybe I was out of line with what I said. I had no hostile intent. Your post, however, was utter BS and full of bitterness. I had no idea not being a fighter pilot riled you up so much. Conversation's over.
 
Rez O. Lewshun said:
I never said I did it...... Magnum. (is that your call sign??)

Listen dude -- this is another reason why you need to keep your trap shut a little more in here. Close your mouth and open your ears for 5 minutes:

"Magnum" is the operational brevity code for an AGM-88 (the "HARM" missile) launch. Saying "Magnum" is similar to saying "FOX-3" or "RIFLE." It's just operational brevity. Note his avatar picture...the F-16 is in the process of a launch. Note his "aircraft flown" and you'll see the F-16CJ listed. See the trail of smoke and fire? MAGNUM!!



I'm sure you've read your share of Tom Clancy novels and are quite well-educated from your father's experience, but it seems as if you have a chip on your shoulder about this topic and an indescribable hard-on for the Navy. You were using "GOOD NATURED SARCASM" before? Sorry...but I couldn't tell. It seemed to me that you were running your mouth about sh!t that's out of your league. The above is Exhibit A.

If you want me to pick on YOUR profession, just ask, brotha...




Rez said:
Bombing neighborhoods, I mean targets, isn't exactly glorious either.....

YGBSM.
 
Fury220 said:
If you want me to pick on YOUR profession, just ask, brotha...

If you know as much about his as he seems to know of yours, this might be quite embarassing.

Let it lay. Non-military guys won't ever know/understand what we do, nor will we understand what they've had to do to get where they are.
 
Why are you here?

Rez O. Lewshun said:
Nothing worst than a group of slicker than snail snot military pilots stroking each other....

I've been around the self inflated ego's long enough.

If I hated Military pilots so much...I don't think I'd be lurking in the Military Flying Forum. Maybe you can find a forum for children of military pilots, you'd probably fit in better there.
 
Okay everyone, lay off Rez. His heart's in the right place, he just took something I said the wrong way and popped off. I probably shouldn't have written it. No biggie.

And no, Redmeat, I won't ask you to call me MAGNUM. The real call sign is "Iceman," and I like to wear a brown leather jacket instead of my FDX issue black one. And I hope you don't mind the aviator shades on the AM out and back. Yes, it's hard to see outside, but it makes me feel cooler.
 
All right guys, I knew the sh1t was going to fly when I hit POST.

I'll do a better job representing Air Line guys if you do a better job representing MIL guys.......

Deal.....?
 
MAGNUM!! said:
And no, Redmeat, I won't ask you to call me MAGNUM. The real call sign is "Iceman," and I like to wear a brown leather jacket instead of my FDX issue black one. And I hope you don't mind the aviator shades on the AM out and back. Yes, it's hard to see outside, but it makes me feel cooler.

I have to admit that's funny.

I'm just messin with ya MAGNUM.
:beer:
 
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Rez O. Lewshun said:
I'll do a better job representing Air Line guys if you do a better job representing MIL guys....

Rez, you are certainly not the person that I want representing me and my airline career.
 
Huggyu2 said:
Rez, you are certainly not the person that I want representing me and my airline career.

Ouch. That hurts me when you say that....really.


Nonetheless, and genuinely stated, I'm sure you do an excellent job in military service.
 
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phantomdriver said:
Who are the better pilots? The Air Force or The Navy.

ICEMAN: Have you figured it out yet?

MAV: What's that?

ICEMAN: Whose the best pilot?

MAV:I think I can figure that one out on my own.

ICEMAN: That's what I heard about you...
 
Uscg

psysicx said:
Its all about the Coast Guard.

Nautical Nazis, Houligan Navy. U'r Screwed Coming or Going, Uncle Sm's Confused Group.

You have to be six feet or taller to get in Coast Guard. That way, if you have to put down in the water, you can wade ashore.

T-Shirt seen on USCGC Mellon worn by LSO, "If you can't hover, you're queer."
 
Rez O. Lewshun said:
The Astronaut program is one of the most competitive if the not THE most competitive in the world. If Chimps and Dogs are riding in compter controlled rockets then why aren't there more Air Force Space Cadets?
Yes it is competitive; however it is not competitive because of the flying skills required. Many of the astronauts aren't even rated. Many of the mission specialists aren't pilots at all. Apples and Oranges my man...Apples and Oranges. Not everyone in the AF wants to be a space cadet, some like flying airplanes. (No disrespect intented to anyone in the astronaut program. I know a few of them and they are outstanding people. Cream of the crop.)

Sorry I missed all of the fun up above, but I was out doing my civ airline job "representing" both the mil career and civ airline career at the same time.
 
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Rez O. Lewshun said:
....Oh and let's talk movies... Hollywood has treated the navy alot better.... Top Gun as corney, gay and weak as it was with that total wack-job Tommy Cruise is way better than Iron Eagle I, II and III.

Keep in mind that the USAF had nothing to do with making those Iron Eagle movies (not that they could have improved them if they were involved). Those were all Israeli aircraft.
 
AdlerDriver said:
Keep in mind that the USAF had nothing to do with making those Iron Eagle movies (not that they could have improved them if they were involved). Those were all Israeli aircraft.

And the Navy helped the Top Gun clowns.... I remember the recruiters camping out at the theaters....
 
Top Gun was a great movie! He!!, I still watch it when it's on!

All the Iron Eagle flicks, however, make me want to vomit. I liked the first one as a kid, and I couldn't understand why my old man was screaming at the TV and yelling nasty things about Lou Gosset Jr, but I get it now.
 

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