Where'd all the CHQ Pilots go???

[FlyinPiker]

Where'd your 190's go guys?

The selling of shares is to secure more postions on 170 and now 190 ejets, as per Aviation International News.. Sorry all you regional guys who are not with CHQ........

Part of the MDA deal...rights to fly 190's if and when they come

US Air 190 flying will be going to Republic............... Besides, CHQ just ratified a new J4J with Airways to staff the 190's.

............ I work at CHQ though so don't listen to me. I wouldn't know anything about the 190 flying or our J4J deal would I? We'll just wait and see what happens.

The 190's are going to RAH, no doubt about it. No other carrier would have the program, ops specs, manuals, and runs done in a timely enough fashion. You don't just up and start flying a new aircraft type next week. It takes time to get it approved. RAH is set up and already in bed with Airways on this, but our CEO wants us to panic, giving mgmnt the upper hand. We aint buyin'. Why should we, the 190's are coming whether we bite or not, and the LOA-91 will be ratified.

Too many to post.....

Piker

 

[Doug Parker]

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Their heads are shoved so far up their a$$es, they can no longer find the keyboard !!!




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[RP170]

LMAO. More people with nothing better to do than rip on guys from other airlines.

 

[Bdfg1]

RP170,

I thought CHQ just ratified a new J4J with regards to 190 flying. What happened? I mean after all you work there you should know. TELL US! Does that mean you won't change your screen name to RP190?

 

[RP170]

RP170,

I thought CHQ just ratified a new J4J with regards to 190 flying. What happened? I mean after all you work there you should know. TELL US! Does that mean you won't change your screen name to RP190?

I don't know. What happened? Why don't you tell us since you seem to know something new.

 

[Heavy Set]

Don't expect to see any E190s with non-mainline pilots going forward. Jet Blue, USAirways/AWA and eventually DAL will all be flying E190s with their own pilots - USAirways and Delta have enough furloughed pilots to handle any 100 seat expansion - probably at Jet Blue E190 rates to be competitive...

 

[Bdfg1]

I don't know. What happened? Why don't you tell us since you seem to know something new.

I don't know what happened. I don't work for CHQ. However you do work for CHQ and thus the reason we should listen to you since "you work there". Do tell! Why all of the sudden are CHQ pilots not going to be getting any 190's?

 

[FlyinPiker]

LMAO. More people with nothing better to do than rip on guys from other airlines.

So humble....so humble.......please tell me when I have EVER ripped on a CHQ guy. I am just very surprised that for weeks I've glanced at this board and read everything from "we are getting the planes" to "the planes are already ordered"...now that they are going to mainline....nothing.....please tell these guys they have no idea what they are talking about!!!!!!

You WERE the Mr. Know-It-All a few weeks back when we were questioning the possiblity of these planes going elsewhere.


Piker

 

[Whiskerbizkit]

Their to busy spending all their money they make flying the 170!

 

[RP170]

So humble....so humble.......please tell me when I have EVER ripped on a CHQ guy. I am just very surprised that for weeks I've glanced at this board and read everything from "we are getting the planes" to "the planes are already ordered"...now that they are going to mainline....nothing.....please tell these guys they have no idea what they are talking about!!!!!!

You WERE the Mr. Know-It-All a few weeks back when we were questioning the possiblity of these planes going elsewhere.


Piker

I said I doubt they will end up at Air Wisconsin due to their cost structure. If you are going to post what people have stated in previous topics why don't you include the whole thread?

 

[wms]

Don't expect to see any E190s with non-mainline pilots going forward. Jet Blue, USAirways/AWA and eventually DAL will all be flying E190s with their own pilots - USAirways and Delta have enough furloughed pilots to handle any 100 seat expansion - probably at Jet Blue E190 rates to be competitive...

The problem with DAL is having the money or credit to buy them. I'd like to see all DAL 170/190 flying go to ML, but the fact is who flies them will be determined by credit more than scope. ML could've been flying them by now but scope relief in the last TA hurt that.

 

[Bdfg1]

I said I doubt they will end up at Air Wisconsin due to their cost structure. If you are going to post what people have stated in previous topics why don't you include the whole thread?

You also said that 190 flying WOULD be going to you guys. You also said that you guys DID sign a J4J deal to secure the 190 flying. Again what happened?

 

[avrodriver]

US Air 190 flying will be going to Republic. Air Wisconsin is too costly (ie dropped by United) so I wouldn't count on any of that flying for you guys. Besides, CHQ just ratified a new J4J with Airways to staff the 190's.

Anyway.....so are the 170/190 sims the same??? Is there any backing out of the REP/MDA deal? You would think this might be some incentive to keep the 170/MDA gig going.

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[FlamingFUPA]

You also said that 190 flying WOULD be going to you guys.

The guys at HP put a stop to that, that's what happend.

You also said that you guys DID sign a J4J deal to secure the 190 flying. Again what happened?

The J4J was for expansion of 170 flying, the 190 part was to give management the power to bid for the flying on it and to include 10 190s in the newly expanded J4J airframe count. It was never to "secure" the flying. Again, it looks like the guys at AmWest secured that flying. You seem like a smart guy, that is what happened to it.

 

[avrodriver]

The guys at HP put a stop to that, that's what happend.



The J4J was for expansion of 170 flying, the 190 part was to give management the power to bid for the flying on it and to include 10 190s in the newly expanded J4J airframe count. It was never to "secure" the flying. Again, it looks like the guys at AmWest secured that flying. You seem like a smart guy, that is what happened to it.

Well apparently some of your pilots didn't read what they were voting on.......

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[Chip]

As a CHQ pilot I am embarassed to read most of the posts on here. We have probably 10 or 12 or the worst airline representatives on this chat board. Those 10 or 12 guys give 1300 other CHQ pilots a bad name by being idiots with their computers.

The 190 should never be a regional aircraft, not even the crj900. the crj700 and emb170 should not be regional aircraft either, but the majors had too much pride to stoop to that level, so they lost them.

 

[FlyinPiker]

I said I doubt they will end up at Air Wisconsin due to their cost structure. If you are going to post what people have stated in previous topics why don't you include the whole thread?

BULLSH*T!! read below......the middle one is the good one

US Air 190 flying will be going to Republic. Air Wisconsin is too costly (ie dropped by United) so I wouldn't count on any of that flying for you guys. Besides, CHQ just ratified a new J4J with Airways to staff the 190's.

I'm just saying I wouldn't count on Air Wisconsin getting that flying. It is misleading to tell guys that are thinking about working there that they will be flying them. I work at CHQ though so don't listen to me. I wouldn't know anything about the 190 flying or our J4J deal would I? We'll just wait and see what happens.

before you try to change the subject, no one in that entire thread said we we're flying them.....it was mentioned that we bid on them.....oooooh, you couldn't stand the thought of that could you!!

It's too easy to get you Air Whisky guys fired up. A lot of your guys have been showing up in CHQ new hire classes lately. Why is that?

Listen RP170....I know you've "been around the block" from your profile. Read your above posts all from that same thread.....it's that smug....Yeah well....better luck next time guys, we got this all wrapped up, it must $uck to be at anywhere other than CHQ (yes I know you didn't say that directly) attitude that made me call out some of the guys that Chip mentioned....and you guys aren't even the blatent "flame starters" like the Guppykiller Clan.

You've danced around mine and everyone elses question. What happened? .....the answer is what you should have been posting everytime it was proposed that someone else could operate these things "I don't Know".

Piker

 

[FlamingFUPA]

Piker, relax. I gave you the answer. Let RP170 spout what he likes, why should it bother you on this beautiful sunday with all the baseball, football, nascar, motoGP yada yada yada on tv/

 

[FlyinPiker]

Piker, relax. I gave you the answer. Let RP170 spout what he likes, why should it bother you on this beautiful sunday with all the baseball, football, nascar, motoGP yada yada yada on tv/

Relaxed....I'm plenty relaxed.....nice attempt at a save though (I'll have to look up some of General Lee's posts to come up with a good come back). It doesn't bother me...this is a message board....I'm posting messages...better than watching commercials.

Enjoy the day as well


Piker

 

[FlamingFUPA]

nice attempt at a save though

I don't know what that means, but whatever

 

[RP170]

Already operating these aircraft would give us an advantage I would think when it comes down to who is going to operate more 170/190's. As far as the J4J agreement, yes that does include 190 flying within it (look at previous posts within this topic). Are we officially getting 190's? That is to be determined as far as Airways flying goes. The AWA pilots are going to fight this tooth and nail which they should. Things change weekly and even daily in this industry as we all know.

It's just a message board guys, not official company information by any means. Don't get so worked up. I come on here for entertainment and it's definitely pretty amusing you guys take this so seriously. I understand it's stressful times for all of us but relax a little.

 

[Corbon]

So this one guy I met online, hes like all, "oh were getting 190s and stuff yeah" and I'm like, whatever, you THINK you're getting them but Kristen, this girl I know from working at the GAP who's dad knows someone and like, jumpseats a lot, is all "yeah, their getting 190's" and cause, I guess, like, Delta or something can't afford em and something about the 170 and common fleet types and like, less training, and their better than CRJ's and I'm still all " OH MY GAWD would you get off my back about the 190s cause WE may be getting them and you like, first totally stole my hairstyle, which I was the ONLY girl in school to have until YOU got it, then your all trying to take away my flying and stuff cause that Julie girl I know is a whore that got fired from Applebees for messing around with my boyfriend in the freezer on the clock, and she said so, and so then I see where, I think the America West pilots, or some guys there are like, voting to keep them at the mainline carriers and Im all like "THANK GOD" so then I went on AOL chat and totally showed this "oh, we're getting the 190 and stuff" guy how wrong he was and it was so hilarious you gotta see it do you wanna do my nails and make out later after we get done with our sucky homework?

 

[tricky]

I said I doubt they will end up at Air Wisconsin due to their cost structure. If you are going to post what people have stated in previous topics why don't you include the whole thread?

you have worked at Sh@taco for a couple of months and u defend it like you own it, by now u should know u suck and so does your company.

 

[Bluestreak]

RP170,

I thought CHQ just ratified a new J4J with regards to 190 flying. What happened? I mean after all you work there you should know. TELL US! Does that mean you won't change your screen name to RP190?

This happened:

"The US Airways and America West collective bargaining agreements will be
modified to allow for a combined maximum of ninety-three (93) CRJ-900, or
other aircraft within the seating and maximum take-off weight limits specified in
Paragraph B above, to be operated in revenue service at any given time at Express
Carriers except that for every two (2) aircraft in excess of the combined 360
aircraft (excluding EMB 190 aircraft) operated at both US Airways and America
West, that are added to revenue service in the mainline fleet, the Company may
allow three (3) additional CRJ-900, or other aircraft within the seating and
maximum take-off weight limits specified in Paragraph B above, to be operated in
revenue service at Express carriers."

 

[FatAlbert]

you have worked at Sh@taco for a couple of months and u defend it like you own it, by now u should know u suck and so does your company.

17 days off...89 hours block... all trips commutable from start to finish. now where else can u get that as a newhire?? i dont care if others do not like chq. if not, tough sh!t. quit your job if u hate it. life is great at shuttle and qol is da shiznit. later biiiiiitches

 

[SkyBoy1981]

17 days off...89 hours block... all trips commutable from start to finish. now where else can u get that as a newhire?? i dont care if others do not like chq. if not, tough sh!t. quit your job if u hate it. life is great at shuttle and qol is da shiznit. later biiiiiitches

My line at XJT this month was nearly identical to what you just mentioned. Plus I get paid more...and I only fly 37 and 50 seaters.

 

[BlackPilot628]

No one truly knows what is happening with the E190 buying, flying, or anything else that has to do with 90 seater airplanes. I think that Bluestreak's post pretty much sums up what will happen for now. There was a Ratification to our contract (LOA4) so that Management would have the ability to bid on 90 seat flying; along with the J4J deal.

I hope that America West or New Us Airways retains the 90 seat plus flying. Hopefully they will purchase the CRJ9's from Mesa and their pilots will fly those as well. A 90 seater aircraft is a 90 seat aircraft.

As Chip stated all of the planes will anything over 50 seats (Other than the Dash 4 and AT72) should be at the Majors. Sometimes in passing we do hear some of the Senior guys a CHQ/RP/S5 (Or whatever) want the E190's because they have no plans of going anywhere else. Nothing irritates me more that to hear that, because most of us don't want to be at the regionals for our entire careers. 85% of us hope that America West win's this flight and pay good wages on the 90 seats aircraft. Hopefully that will in-power more pilot groups to follow.

Best of luck to all of you.

 

[BlackPilot628]

you have worked at Sh@taco for a couple of months and u defend it like you own it, by now u should know u suck and so does your company.

Not sure what your beef is with the company, but we are all sorry to hear that. May you be blessed in your anger.


RP is not necessarily defending the company (management),he is defending his pilot group as he should. Don't piss on him for doing that. Maybe if more pilots and they're unions did just that, we wouldn't ALL be in the predicament that we're in now. It's not completely our (pilots) fault; as you and I do what we need to do to pay the bills. Only think we have is ourselves to back each other up.

 

[FlyinPiker]

I think that Bluestreak's post pretty much sums up what will happen for now. .

Bluestreaks's post kind left out a couple of key details. Read for your self where he got it from.

http://www.donlinrecano.net/dr201/mwc/04-13819/dk003193-0005.pdf

Looks like half of your wish will come true. Unfortunately they've gave up on the 900.

 

[BlackPilot628]

Bluestreaks's post kind left out a couple of key details. Read for your self where he got it from.

http://www.donlinrecano.net/dr201/mwc/04-13819/dk003193-0005.pdf

Looks like half of your wish will come true. Unfortunately they've gave up on the 900.

Interesting. Thanks for the pointout.

BP