Whats all this BS about the BS degree?

[Dep676]

Just because one has a degree doesn't make him a smart man. There are plenty of people as mentioned above that have gone far in life. They have more money and success than they know what to do with it. Especially in aviaiton the degree doesn't make you fly the plane any better. If you can't fly you may as well use your degree for toilet paper.

Yes I went to college and I only have a 2 year degree. So I guess that makes me a less of a person. Next if my grammar is up to everyones par. That was my worst subject in school and I hated it. So I will save you all the smart A$$ comments. Because we all know that someone with a 4- year degree is far more superior than me with my 2-year degree. I forget you fly sooooooooo much better with a 4-year degree. So I think you can get my opinion on a 4-year degree. Not bashing anyone with a 4-year degree just sick of getting pushed aside because I don't have one.

 

[tdvalve]

Well said Sheriff!

I've got a degree and i was both enlisted and commissioned. The O's typically are better educated, but I doubt very much if they're any smarter than the E's. Apparently, something was lacking during Timp's study if he really believes that education is a measure of intelligence.

 

[rumpletumbler]

MetroSheriff,

I thought I had disclaimed my statement adequately but evidently not. I wasn't saying that everyone that is an enlisted man was a zero. I have no military experience and therefore can only quote what I've been told. I tried to say that I didn't think this held true across the board and had nothing personally against enlisted folks. If that didn't come across then sorry. I certainly don't want to or have desire to offend the people who defend the country I live in. While all the college boys are out on the back nine they are the ones laying on the ground with their intestines in their hands and I certainly have a great deal of respect for that.

RT

 

[CXAV8]

College

Why stop at a college degree, who needs a high school degree.
Or for that matter do you really need an ATP to be an airline pilot. These are measuring sticks. Without a degree you are at a disadvantage before the interview starts.
P.S. I'm the smartest guy in the world just ask me. HAHA

 

[checkessential]

Any person who asserts that college is a waste of time, or not necessary in this century, is a fool. And those who think they are the next Richard Branson, well... give us a break. To get a good job, with a reputable firm, you must have a formal education. Unless of course you have already secured financing for your new A340 fleet...

You can argure the merit of higher education all day long, but the smart employer knows the truth. Just look at the statistics. Or if you haven't had that class... read the handwriting on the wall...

 

[bart]

Please don't waste your time

The market is competitive enough. Please dont get your degree, that way my resume moves one slot closer to the top of the stack.

 

[rumpletumbler]

But I want to get my degree! How about a degree in agriculture. I can explain that I might know better which field to land in. etc.

RT

 

[Dep676]

I think a degree is a good idea 2 or 4-year. Why does it have to be a deciding matter in aviation though? I would think hours and ratings should weigh in more than rather the person as a degree or not. Again the degree as no bearing on how well the person can fly. There have been a lot of times when the more qualified person as far as flight time is passed up. Just because the lack of education. So I suppose that they person with a 4-year degree and less time and ratings is a better pilot. I don't understand the thinking behind this. Again I am not saying not to get a degree. Just that everybody should have fair chance based on there flight experience not there college degree. Isn't that what we all are trying to do, FLY? Not who had a better GPA or who drank more beer with their frat brothers. And yes my GPA was 3.80 before someone has any comments about that. I will save you the energy from typing your snide remarks.

 

[MetroSheriff]

But I want to get my degree! How about a degree in agriculture. I can explain that I might know better which field to land in. etc.

RT

Now that one I like!!!!

 

[rumpletumbler]

AHHH HAAAAAAAAAAAA! Experience not college! So you agree with me

RT

 

[checkessential]

For the uninitiated, when an airline hires someone, they are not looking for the next Red Baron. They hire someone who shows a record of education and self improvement. If the person has a history of progressive education and achievement, that person will most likely do well in that airline's training program. It's that simple. United couldn't care less if you're the hottest stick around or not, they plan on teaching you how to do it, their way. Seems dumb, but it isn't. And for those who feel that they are being unfairly pushed out of the way for not having a degree, go get one. Then see how you feel about it....

 

[CXAV8]

Head in sand.

Try to get quality experience without a degree. Then try and pay your mortage on your C-310 wages. Without a degree your career options will be very limited. It's very tough to get to the top. Your trying with one hand behind your back.

 

[rumpletumbler]

I never said I didn't want one. The question was do I have to have one. My choice if I get one would be something I could do at home preferably. Are there degree programs out there that you can do via online classroom or other methods at home etc. that are not dissed so to speak by the aviation community? I mean you have books, subject matter, tests. Why do I need to drive 60 miles each way and smell other peoples farts for 3 hours 3 times a week when I can do it at home? Or is that part of it? RT, by my calculations you've smelled approximately 72,456 farts over the last 3 years. You've made it! Welcome to the club.

RT

 

[Dep676]

Let's see

I have a good friend that is making more than most captains at the regional level and most of the new guys at the majors. He has no degree at all and he is making well in to 60's or 70's flying a DA 2000. And he has only been there a little over a year. There are plenty of guys at the same company making over 6 figures. And I also fly with a guy that makes in the 80's plus he gets a company car every few years. He also gets a 20% bonus every year that's 16,000 smackers for all you "educated people". They both of have way better quality of life than any airline educated person. So I guess you better run out an get your 4-year degree so can fly a RJ for 20,000 a year. That's after you spend all the well spent money on your degree. So you can live in a box and eat government cheese. Just so you can dream of getting to the majors some day and get furloughed.

 

[checkessential]

No need to get moody. At the right regional, you can have a pretty stable career, along with nice travel benefits. Other jobs have their advantages also. As to whether or not you are subject to furlough, that is luck of the draw. An industry as dynamic as this one, has no sure bets. Just good guesses. But should you get furloughed, having a degree can secure a good living in another line of work. Including agriculture. No joke.