What might the bottom of AAL and LCC SLI look like

[The Drizzle]

Source?

The Protocol Agreement for one.

 

[General Lee]

sure signatures matter, the signatures on the T/A which controlled the timelines of our merger. Now if you read that T/A (which D and U learned from) It states that the arbitrated award will not be in effect until a JCBA is negotiated.

Soooooooo the NIC sits there waiting on a JCBA between East/West. Where is it? As soon as it comes forth we can start using the NIC.

Keep going though 'cause AA came in and complicated things. Now there's a MOU which all sides agreed that previous agreements are gone and no longer in effect. That meant stuff like a JCBA between east and west is not going to happen. AOL sued saying it was a DFR for USAPA to negotiate a change and not include the NIC award. I believe a judge agreed with USAPA, and even stated that USAPA had a legitimate union purpose to negotiate away the original T/A that included the NIC.


Now for the AA guys that might scan through this, a question for you. With the NIC, Every West pilot can hold Capt. So if that is the list used to merger with AA, then instead of 2500 capts, there are 3300 capts. I.E. relative position should place every West F/O above EVERY AA F/O.

Sounds fair right?

It doesn't matter if it sounds fair or not to you. It matters what the 3 neutral arbitrators think. You can always deny the award (again) and run away like spoiled children (again), or you can read the award and see why those 3 people decided your fate the way they did. It's a gamble, but outsiders that have nothing to gain other than their normal fee, will look at it and decide what is fair.

The new ALPA merger policy (after DL/NW merger) has status and category, but now also includes "longevity." That could prevent some new Capts from going ahead of a 15 year FO. Too bad you guys left ALPA.

And will the first 3 upcoming arbitrators agree with Judge Silver, or with the NIC award done by one of their previous peers? Why would they allow the dropping of a binding arbitration award? If they did, they would be acknowledging that what they award has no "teeth" and can be abandoned by the side with the larger majority, every time. Would they want that? Uhhhhhh nooooo....

When this process ends, USAPA will be gone, and that means only individual or groups of Easties could try to disagree or sue if they don't like it. In the meantime, everyone will abide by your eventual award, and that will be priceless.



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[RJLoser]

The Protocol Agreement for one.

I don't think any date is listed in the PA as the "snapshot" date.
On page 6 of the PA it states a "snapshot date" will be determined.
The 12/9/13 is just the seniority lists. Read the end of page 4 and the beginning of page 5.

GL.. The announcement date was 2/13.

 

[General Lee]

The Protocol Agreement for one.

Ask the AirTran guys about their "process agreement." It was similar to yours, and it stated that if both sides couldn't come to a mutual agreement about Seniority List integration, that arbitration would be used. That never happened for some reason.



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[General Lee]

I don't think any date is listed in the PA as the "snapshot" date.

GL.. The announcement date was 2/13.

Then I have a feeling that that one will be used.


Bye Bye---General Lee