What is FLOPS New Payscale?

[BeenThereDoneIt]

All the rant about the new contrat left some of us confused. What does your new contract pay for the first 4 years for FO and PIC? Gracious!

 

[wacoflyr]

It is truly amazing. One year on what I consider to be a pretty good job has turned what may well have been a decent primate into something that can hardly be recognized. Or, maybe I have it wrong. Maybe he was never a self respecting human. Whatever. Now, thanks to the power of the internet, our troll has decided to venture beyond his own former company, and attack pilots at companies that he has never even worked for. I am embarrased for him. On behalf of our troll, I apologize to the good pilots of Flight Options, and I trust you to see him for the little figure with the pointy red hat that he truly is. Kinda funny, really.
Oops! Those are gnomes, aren't they? Whatever.

 

[dime line]

All the rant about the new contrat left some of us confused. What does your new contract pay for the first 4 years for FO and PIC? Gracious!

Do you REALLY want to know, cause it sucks. But we all have opened our eyes to our company, the industry and the world. Oh..... and the small fact that we lost 700 pilots in the last 4 years. But we live to fight another day, and its in writing. So again do you REALLY need to know?

 

[BeenThereDoneIt]

Oh, I'd certainly like to know. There was so much back and forth before the vote, we don't know WHAT to believe.

 

[ProFracPilot]

Go apply at Flight Options. And when you do, ask them then.

 

[BeenThereDoneIt]

I applied with them before but refused the interview because of all the in-fighting.

 

[ProFracPilot]

...but refused the interview...

Then the specifics of our pay scale is of no real use to you. Suffice it to say it did not reach parity with NJ.

Is that sufficient troll fodder for you?

 

[BeenThereDoneIt]

ROFLMAO! Are you the bottom feeder?

 

[ProFracPilot]

ROFLMAO! Are you the bottom feeder?

As predictable as the sun rising in the east.

I knew better - Waco has warned most of us at least once. Now, where's that "ignore" button...

Buh bye.

 

[BeenThereDoneIt]

Slow learner....low pay. Here's a bullet.

 

[HazMat]

I too apologize for the troll. I cant believe he ever worked for us. Makes me want to punch the guy who hired him in the face

 

[BeenThereDoneIt]

I too apologize for the troll. I cant believe he ever worked for us. Makes me want to punch the guy who hired him in the face

Punch him. Hell.....I was lied to about Profit-Sharing. Can you punch him for me as well?

 

[hangarrat]

I applied with them before but refused the interview because of all the in-fighting.

why god, why could he have not gone to that interview? WHY WHY WHY

 

[BeenThereDoneIt]

Because he saw the writing on the wall....just like he saw the upgrades at Avantiar would soon be 3-4 years. Just like he sees that there is no way in hell that you will buy 50 more planes in 3 years. That would be a plane every 5 weeks. Ain't gonna happen.

 

[ProFracPilot]

why god, why could he have not gone to that interview? WHY WHY WHY

I can't answer that question. I know that I, for one, am glad she decided not to show :laugh:

 

[Praetorian]

I think what's important to know is that it's an average 38.9% raise over the life of the five year contract, assuming the company exercises their options for years 4 and 5. And if they don't we'll be back at the table in 2.5 years. This is a remarkable achievement, for any contract, let alone a first contract in this economy.

What's also important to know is that we don't have any year one-four year pilots flying at Flops. So those numbers would be irrelevant if they were posted.

 

[skyismyoffice]

Also important to know that there are 200+ pilots with recall rights so there will be no new hires in the foreseeable future. So, why does the payscale matter 2 U?

 

[hangarrat]

Also important to know that there are 200+ pilots with recall rights so there will be no new hires in the foreseeable future. So, why does the payscale matter 2 U?

The OP has been permanantly banned from FI. The MODs rule!

 

[netjetwife]

... But we live to fight another day, and its in writing. ...

Kudos to all of the Flight Options pilots and their families for hanging in there and getting a foundation you can build on in the future. Having legally recognized rules and a voice in your career will pay dividends which can't always be counted in actual dollars but are valuable gains nonetheless. Congratulations to you all! NJW

 

[wacoflyr]

NJW, I don't always agree with you, but it is good to have your voice in the argument. Welcome back.