Welcome to Flightinfo.com

  • Register now and join the discussion
  • Friendliest aviation Ccmmunity on the web
  • Modern site for PC's, Phones, Tablets - no 3rd party apps required
  • Ask questions, help others, promote aviation
  • Share the passion for aviation
  • Invite everyone to Flightinfo.com and let's have fun

What has ALPA done for me lately?

Welcome to Flightinfo.com

  • Register now and join the discussion
  • Modern secure site, no 3rd party apps required
  • Invite your friends
  • Share the passion of aviation
  • Friendliest aviation community on the web

ualdriver

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 21, 2003
Posts
1,400
Just three more of the many "little" things that ALPA does on behalf of our Profession, transparently to most pilots........


Open Skies
The first stage of Open Skies goes into effect March 30, 2008. We continue to support our alliances in Congress, in opposition of this agreement, as the DOT and White House wish. Congressman James Oberstar (D-MN) has made it clear to the EU aviation community that there will be no modifications to foreign ownership restrictions. Negotiations on eliminating Cabotage and Foreign Ownership restrictions are scheduled for this spring. This issue remains the single greatest threat to our careers. I will update you as this develops.

Lost Retirement Savings Act
Two key ALPA-supported bills were introduced late last year that would allow pilots to recover some of their lost retirement benefits by offering a retirement savings option to those whose defined benefit plans were terminated or frozen in bankruptcy proceedings after September 11, 2001 and before January 1, 2007. ALPA members are urged to participate in a new grassroots Action Alert to enlist congressional support for these two bills, and prompt speedy action on them. Sign on to www.alpa.org ,members only section, to send your message of support to your congressional leaders.

The Pilots Equitable Treatment Act
Although the pilot retirement age changed on December 13, 2007, when President Bush signed into law H.R. 4343, (P.L. 110-135), there remains a critical need for Congress to pass H.R. 2103 and S. 1270 The Pilots Equitable Treatment Act (aka Akaka/Miller). Although the pilot retirement age has been raised to 65, there are still pilots who will be penalized on the guaranteed level of benefits they receive from the PBGC because age 60 was the mandatory retirement age at the time their defined benefit plans were terminated. We have updated the suggested message for ALPA members to send to your federal legislators to reflect this situation, and continue to urge your participation in this important grassroots effort. Go to our website, www.alpa.org , for more information, and the tools to write to your congressional leaders.

CrewPASS (airport access)
The TSA is required, by law, to provide flight crewmembers access through airport security checkpoints, within eighteen months from the bill signing date of August 3, 2007. We should expect to have this procedure implemented no later than February 3, 2009. For more information visit the ALPA website www.alpa.org in the member’s only section.
 
You've got to be kidding right? F National. Prater's an idiot, and will be thrown out. Any reconciliation will only start with a stand up, not BANG the junior pilot, fight for everything kind of person. Guy or Girl, anything is better than Prater. Him and his bathroom boy just SCREWED the majority of Pilots in America.
 
Just wait for the ALPA twist on Open Skies-

Although a majority of pilots opposed open skies, a majority supported assisting with the implementation should open skies be allowed, therefore ALPA will support open skies.

Sound familiar?

How about putting some effort into an updated version of the RLA, or preferably its elimination?
 
Just wait for the ALPA twist on Open Skies-

Although a majority of pilots opposed open skies, a majority supported assisting with the implementation should open skies be allowed, therefore ALPA will support open skies.

Sound familiar?

How about putting some effort into an updated version of the RLA, or preferably its elimination?

First of all, why don't YOU put some effort into learning about what steps ALPA may or may not take concerning the RLA and getting airline pilots out from underneath that uselss Act? The title doesn't say "here's some stuff that Dirty Sanchez wants to read about concerning ALPA legislative issues......." It reads, "What has ALPA done for me lately?" Feel free to do some research, contact your legislative reps, and start a thread on that very topic. I'd be very interested in reading about what you've learned.

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised to see a poll where ALPA is going to ask its members if it's better off to fruitlessly "fight to the death" or try to get cabotage/foreign ownership language that favors pilots in any legislation concerning that issue when it becomes unwinnable. As I've said repeatedly, I think globablization is far bigger than ALPA and eventually we will lose that battle. Hopefully ALPA will be smart enough to not foolishly "fight to the death" and get nothing on behalf of U.S. Airline Pilots just to appease ALPA members who think ALPA doesn't do anything for them unless it falls on its sword trying.
 
I think ALPA National should be trying to get the RLA updated to reflect today's realities. The whole act is tilted towards management. If the old gummers at APAAD and SWAPA could overturn the age 6o mandate then I am sure a unified front from ALPA could probably get the RLA changed a little to help us out.
 
Who cares about "open skies"......We already have "open skies".....We are all competing with one another and driving down pay......

In fact, many pilots are leaving here to go work overseas because they pay more over there now.....Open skies is a straw argument to divert attention from the fact that ALPA has failed.....

I will be replaced by a fellow "union brother" here long before I am replaced by a foreign pilot.......
 
I think ALPA National should be trying to get the RLA updated to reflect today's realities.


Respectfully, why do you think ALPA Nat'l should do it... Why not you?



The whole act is tilted towards management.

This whole profession is titled toward management. That is the whole point and has been for over 120 years.

Those who control wealth will not stand for the flow of cash to be interupted.

So what are YOU going to do about it?



If the old gummers at APAAD and SWAPA could overturn the age 6o mandate then I am sure a unified front from ALPA could probably get the RLA changed a little to help us out.

Exactly.... but it is not ALPA.... it is ALPA pilots...

Then you got spiked egg noggers like Joe Merchant that love to be irresposible and motivate negatively, other pilots to hate the very and only oganization that can provide resources to help themselves protect thier career.

It doesn't matter who you are.... if you want this profession to get better you've got to get more involved.

Blaming the leadership, waiting for better leadership, hating other groups... all that stuff has to go away and a dedicated focus on problem solving needs to commence...

What have you got to lose?

Ego?
Democracy?
Your career?
 
Thanks for the update, ualdriver. Always good to see that ALPA continues to do the work of profession, even when the members are a bunch of apathetic whiners.
 
"Those who control wealth will not stand for the flow of cash to be interupted."

Exactly...This is why ALPA national pushes to have agency shop in it's contracts". I have been an ALPA member over 4 years now and remain so only because I have to be or I lose my job. Thus, since my union dues are basically extorted from me, I expect that those whom I pay to represent me would do it well (" Respectfully, why do you think ALPA Nat'l should do it... Why not you?").

If I hire someone to clean my house, when I come home, I expect the house to be clean, not to have to clean it myself.

If my cleaning lady was doing a lousy job in my opinion, I would fire her, save my money and clean my own toilet. The problem is, with ALPO's agency shop, you can't fire the cleaning lady who is doing a lousy job. What impetus then, does our MEC and National have to do a good job representing it's constituency? They get their money anyway (it all rolls back to "Those who control wealth will not stand for the flow of cash to be interupted"
 
daddynl2.jpg
 
"ALPA member for four years"

Wow. You are lucky it has been such a short time. Cheer up... you only have twenty or so more years to go. Unless maybe the civil war withing ALPA causes them to fail sooner. We can hope.
 
Respectfully, why do you think ALPA Nat'l should do it... Why not you?





This whole profession is titled toward management. That is the whole point and has been for over 120 years.

Those who control wealth will not stand for the flow of cash to be interupted.

So what are YOU going to do about it?





Exactly.... but it is not ALPA.... it is ALPA pilots...

Then you got spiked egg noggers like Joe Merchant that love to be irresposible and motivate negatively, other pilots to hate the very and only oganization that can provide resources to help themselves protect thier career.

It doesn't matter who you are.... if you want this profession to get better you've got to get more involved.

Blaming the leadership, waiting for better leadership, hating other groups... all that stuff has to go away and a dedicated focus on problem solving needs to commence...

What have you got to lose?

Ego?
Democracy?
Your career?

I need to get more involved??? Do you know me? Also, I never blamed leadership. I just put forth an idea and thought someone could comment on the worthiness of it. Then along comes magnanimous you. I see what you are trying to do but you are doing a very poor job of it. Don't attack everyone as being lazy and not volunteering. Your holier-than-thou attitude is getting a little over the top and is becoming counter-productive. Just like Joe Merchant. I just got off probation and am on my first committee. Rest assured I will look into my idea...I don't need you here lecturing me (on something you know nothing about).
So, what are your ideas Rez? All I hear from you is how much we all suck and need to do more.
 
Who cares about "open skies"......We already have "open skies".....We are all competing with one another and driving down pay......

In fact, many pilots are leaving here to go work overseas because they pay more over there now.....Open skies is a straw argument to divert attention from the fact that ALPA has failed.....

I will be replaced by a fellow "union brother" here long before I am replaced by a foreign pilot.......

Joe, the mainline pilots are just mad because now they're going to have to face the same competition and downward pressure of wage we have been facing for years here in the regionals. Poor babies.

They created this mess with ineffective exclusive scope. Now they reap the reward as Asian, Latin, and European pilots raid their hubs. If they had brought the industry together 10 years ago, when certain airlines filed a PID, we could be fighting a united front. But now, the industry is so fractured, nobody, especially ALPA, can put up any real resistance to the tidal wave of cheap airline labor approaching our shores. We are the next shipping industry and ALPA is fiddling while Rome burns.
 

Latest resources

Back
Top Bottom