What do we REALLY make???

[utahpilot]

I made 52K as a 2nd year SkyWest FO. more than I thought I'd make when I got hired. I did pick up trips, sit reserve some days for pay.

 

[SkyNation]

can't wait for embdrvr to flame in here with his SkyWest hate speech!

 

[siucavflight]

Not bad for second year FO pay, still feel we are way underpaid for what we do. In all seriousness we should be making at least double maybe even tripple what you got. Hopefully that day will be coming.

 

[GINCHBLASTER]

$38,982 RAH F/O. Mostly 2 year pay, with a few months of 1st year pay.

 

[embdrvr]

can't wait for embdrvr to flame in here with his SkyWest hate speech!

I get a kick out of the newbee punks like you that count your per diem as pay.

You have the worst vacation accrual in the industry and a lousy 401K match.
Your counterparts at other airlines get 3 to 5 times the match that you get especially when you factor in the B fund. How many days of vacation does your accrual from this year divided by 4.3 amount to? Less than 2 weeks?
As a young punk you don't understand the importance of retirement contributions. You don't comprehend how much more valuable nontaxed income is.

Hate speech? No. It's a reality check for a koolaid swilling anti-union propagandist.

And I will be laughing my a$$ off if you guys vote down the union and then ASA forces an integration. I'll laugh even harder if they get DOH and you end up as an FO for 5-7 years.

Then we'll be anxious to hear your perspective.

But for now we'll let you keep those kneepads on.

 

[siucavflight]

Wait start this over, are you counting per-diem as income??? If so then this whole thread is useless.

 

[Popeye0537]

I get a kick out of the newbee punks like you that count your per diem as pay.

You have the worst vacation accrual in the industry and a lousy 401K match.
Your counterparts at other airlines get 3 to 5 times the match that you get especially when you factor in the B fund. How many days of vacation does your accrual from this year divided by 4.3 amount to? Less than 2 weeks?
As a young punk you don't understand the importance of retirement contributions. You don't comprehend how much more valuable nontaxed income is.

Hate speech? No. It's a reality check for a koolaid swilling anti-union propagandist.

And I will be laughing my a$$ off if you guys vote down the union and then ASA forces an integration. I'll laugh even harder if they get DOH and you end up as an FO for 5-7 years.

Then we'll be anxious to hear your perspective.

But for now we'll let you keep those kneepads on.

God I hope they DOH! You anit-union, non-voting(700 of ya) slackers are going to get what you deserve

 

[Gr82Aviate]

Wait start this over, are you counting per-diem as income??? If so then this whole thread is useless.

They probably included per diem, bonus pay, and wouldn't be surprised if they included the company $50 fee for referring new employees.

 

[pilotyip]

Congrats, that is good pay, is better than a school teacher with a college degree makes after teaching in North Carolina for 10 years.

 

[OldManPilot]

CHQ 4 yr E145 Captain = $76642 Net as of 12/30 paystub

 

[PCL_128]

Congrats, that is good pay, is better than a school teacher with a college degree makes after teaching in North Carolina for 10 years.

Good pay? You think someone makes good money simply because they make more than a teacher? Teachers are the most underpaid profession in this country. Making more than them is not exactly a badge of honor. Sorry, but 48k is not good pay in today's world.

 

[embdrvr]

These pay comparisons are retarded. To really compare actual pay you have to look at how many days someone worked and how many hours they were away from base. There are guys I work with that make 10 or 20 grand more than I do that fly the same equipment and have similar seniority. They pick up open time and bid for fewer days off. So to suggest your paycheck is bigger without factoring how much work was involved is asinine.

Once you account for days off and time away from base you have to look at the rest of the big picture.

Vacation accrual
401K
B Fund
Uniform allowance
FAA medical reimbursement
Quality of health insurance plan
Work rules
Trip/Duty rigs

A buddy at a fractional for example has a great 100% paid for by the company health care plan including his FAA medicals. To cover my medical insurance premiums for the family, copays, non-covered treatment runs me 5000 or 6000 per year. Thanks to medical savings account I can pay that with pre-tax dollars. But if I'm comparing how much I get paid I have to subtract several thousand from my pay before I compare it with his.

Since PBS SkyWest pilots are working far more days and have way less vacation. Now SkyWest pilots aren't get paid for cancellations. It's one of those pen stroke policy changes. Unlike unionized counterparts there is nothing SkyWest pilots can do about it. They just take their pay cut and keep smiling.

 

[Joe Schmo]

All the hourly pay and name calling debates aside, how did your hourly rates really shake out over the last year? As we know, $34 vs. $37 (or whatever) bucks an hour only tells part of the story. At the risk of being called tacky, I'll share my year for perspectives sake.......

Second year at SkyWest $35.61 an hour and made a year to date of $48,600
abour a 1000 hours of credit (only about 800 flying), 26 holiday pay, 70 hours vacation, and the rest with performance rewards, some reserve credit and sick pay.

Only thought this would help to show more of the big picture. I only picked up two junior man trips througout the year. Didn't seem like a real tough year, averaged about 14 days off a month with locals, 2 days 4 days (we have some that pay 28 hours) and stand ups. Hope this info helps somebody.........

WOW!!!!!!!!!!! A ZEPPELIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[guest33]

All the hourly pay and name calling debates aside, how did your hourly rates really shake out over the last year? As we know, $34 vs. $37 (or whatever) bucks an hour only tells part of the story. At the risk of being called tacky, I'll share my year for perspectives sake.......

Second year at SkyWest $35.61 an hour and made a year to date of $48,600
abour a 1000 hours of credit (only about 800 flying), 26 holiday pay, 70 hours vacation, and the rest with performance rewards, some reserve credit and sick pay.

Only thought this would help to show more of the big picture. I only picked up two junior man trips througout the year. Didn't seem like a real tough year, averaged about 14 days off a month with locals, 2 days 4 days (we have some that pay 28 hours) and stand ups. Hope this info helps somebody.........

FLAME ON! Your numbers don't add up. Stop trying to make your scabbish airline look good.

 

[Crizz]

Now SkyWest pilots aren't get paid for cancellations. It's one of those pen stroke policy changes. Unlike unionized counterparts there is nothing SkyWest pilots can do about it. They just take their pay cut and keep smiling.

I havent heard anything about this. What is your source?

Or are you refering to the BHO for the 70/90 not applying to a cancelled flight?

 

[SSDD]

I got cancelled a lot these past two weeks, and etrip has been adjusted to show the pay.

emb, you seem to be really pissed off and that's o.k., but don't start pulling stuff out of your a$$ and posting here as fact.

Yeah, your buddy has great insurance coverage, I sure wish we had better, but let's compare the rest of his QOL issues. I'll bet it doesn't look so desirable.

 

[embdrvr]

I got cancelled a lot these past two weeks, and etrip has been adjusted to show the pay.

emb, you seem to be really pissed off and that's o.k., but don't start pulling stuff out of your a$$ and posting here as fact.

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Been to your sapaforums lately?
Been happening to so many people SAPA has scheduled a meeting to discuss it.
Check to see if you actually get paid. Payroll doesn't go off your etrip calcs.

 

[embdrvr]

Yeah, your buddy has great insurance coverage, I sure wish we had better, but let's compare the rest of his QOL issues. I'll bet it doesn't look so desirable.

He used to work with you and says he wouldn't go back for twice the $'s.
More time off. First class hotels. No reduced rest BS. Nice equipment. More money. Keeps all the frequent flyer miles and often gets booked in first or business. When he and the missus go on vacation they book positive space with FF miles. Cashes in the Hilton Hotel points so his hotel in Hawaii is free as well. Yeah it's not so desirable.

 

[embdrvr]

I havent heard anything about this. What is your source?

sapaforums
nearly 60 posts on the topic

i don't BS about stuff

can't help you're not doing a good enough job staying abreast of issues

 

[SSDD]

Well good for him. May be worth looking into it...

I'll have to wait for the next paycheck, but as of the 22nd, I have gotten paid for every single cancellation and appendix D time.

As far as the sapaforums, can't say I've ever been there, not even registered.