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This is posted on the CHQlounge message board and says volumes as to what's wrong with this industry. They are talking about E-190s at CHQ.
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[font=verdana, arial, helvetica]MatthewAMEL[/font]
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[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]Re: 190's[/font] [font=verdana, arial, helvetica]
Where do people get this idea from?
As far as I know, jetBlue, Southwest and Continential are the only majors hiring. Are you saying that WE (RAH) are taking jobs away from jetBlue and Southwest by flying the 190?
More people are flying today than pre-9/11. The number of seats that the regionals offer is NOT what "competes" with the flying done by majors. Majors are in such dire straits today because THEY missed the boat on the RegionalJet and the whole concept of point-to-point flying!
Hub and spoke is dead. No one wants to get to FLL from CMH by going through ATL.
And yes, I want E190's at RAH because I picked this company as my career. It's not a stepping stone. I will be perfectly happy flying the E190 and making $90K/yr.
As EVERY pilot should know by now, it is far better to be in the top 10% at CHQ than the bottom 25% at ANY major.[/font]
[font=verdana, arial, helvetica]MatthewAMEL[/font]
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[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]Re: Re: Re: 190's[/font] [font=verdana, arial, helvetica]
You are speaking of the NWA that is poised on the brink of bankruptcy? Of that DC-9 crew that is days away from getting the furlough letter? My $90K/yr is gonna look pretty damn good to him when he takes that used car salesman job at Carmax.
I'm also having a career here at CHQ, a damn good one. I don't know of any other job where I get 15 days off a month and make the same money I do, with the potential to make what I can make here.
Don't like it here? Then YOU go over to Comair or ExpressJet. Oh, wait, you mean the guys that sit right seat for 5-7 years in a RJ with NO PLACE to go? Think it's crap here? Then YOU head on over to Mesa or Pinnacle or Eagle and then reminsce about the 'good ol days at CHQ'.
If having a career is truly your goal, then consider...your major choices are pretty limited: Southwest (737), jetBlue (E190/A320), FedEx or UPS. Are you saying you aren't going to be MORE attractive to any of those airlines if you have E190 PIC than if all you have is E145 or CRJ200/700 time? Flying the E170/190 gives you MORE of an opportunity to chase that major career you hold so dear.
Things could be better here...and I believe they are improving. And yes, if it takes an additional side letter to get the company to stop violating the CBA are you saying that's not worthwhile? That the IBT should just let the company continue to violate without trying to support the pilot group?
Management will ALWAYS try to get the most out of us (and the FA's) that they can. It's OUR job to stand up aganist those things we can't live with.[/font]
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[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]Re: 190's[/font] [font=verdana, arial, helvetica]
[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]quote:[/font] Originally posted by billy
But the more of them you get the less jobs there will be available at mainline.
But the more of them you get the less jobs there will be available at mainline.
Where do people get this idea from?
As far as I know, jetBlue, Southwest and Continential are the only majors hiring. Are you saying that WE (RAH) are taking jobs away from jetBlue and Southwest by flying the 190?
More people are flying today than pre-9/11. The number of seats that the regionals offer is NOT what "competes" with the flying done by majors. Majors are in such dire straits today because THEY missed the boat on the RegionalJet and the whole concept of point-to-point flying!
Hub and spoke is dead. No one wants to get to FLL from CMH by going through ATL.
And yes, I want E190's at RAH because I picked this company as my career. It's not a stepping stone. I will be perfectly happy flying the E190 and making $90K/yr.
As EVERY pilot should know by now, it is far better to be in the top 10% at CHQ than the bottom 25% at ANY major.[/font]
[font=verdana, arial, helvetica]MatthewAMEL[/font]
[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]Champion of the Obscure[/font]
Domicile: MCO
Equipment: EMB
Posts: 41[/font]
[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]Re: Re: Re: 190's[/font] [font=verdana, arial, helvetica]
[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]quote:[/font] Originally posted by ThruTen
You'll be happy flying a 90-100 airplane for $90,000 when some NWA DC-9 Captain is making $150,000 doing the EXACT SAME JOB??!! God dammit..some of us are trying to have a career!!!!
And do you enjoy the way we are treated at CHQ?? The low-rent, used car salesmen that run this place?? The constant CBA violations?? The micro-management?? SOP's re-issued with one day's notice to prepare?? yadda yadda yadda...
You'll be happy flying a 90-100 airplane for $90,000 when some NWA DC-9 Captain is making $150,000 doing the EXACT SAME JOB??!! God dammit..some of us are trying to have a career!!!!
And do you enjoy the way we are treated at CHQ?? The low-rent, used car salesmen that run this place?? The constant CBA violations?? The micro-management?? SOP's re-issued with one day's notice to prepare?? yadda yadda yadda...
You are speaking of the NWA that is poised on the brink of bankruptcy? Of that DC-9 crew that is days away from getting the furlough letter? My $90K/yr is gonna look pretty damn good to him when he takes that used car salesman job at Carmax.
I'm also having a career here at CHQ, a damn good one. I don't know of any other job where I get 15 days off a month and make the same money I do, with the potential to make what I can make here.
Don't like it here? Then YOU go over to Comair or ExpressJet. Oh, wait, you mean the guys that sit right seat for 5-7 years in a RJ with NO PLACE to go? Think it's crap here? Then YOU head on over to Mesa or Pinnacle or Eagle and then reminsce about the 'good ol days at CHQ'.
If having a career is truly your goal, then consider...your major choices are pretty limited: Southwest (737), jetBlue (E190/A320), FedEx or UPS. Are you saying you aren't going to be MORE attractive to any of those airlines if you have E190 PIC than if all you have is E145 or CRJ200/700 time? Flying the E170/190 gives you MORE of an opportunity to chase that major career you hold so dear.
Things could be better here...and I believe they are improving. And yes, if it takes an additional side letter to get the company to stop violating the CBA are you saying that's not worthwhile? That the IBT should just let the company continue to violate without trying to support the pilot group?
Management will ALWAYS try to get the most out of us (and the FA's) that they can. It's OUR job to stand up aganist those things we can't live with.[/font]