Were is the General Sherman on here?

[LeeRoyJenkins]

When I speak of "I", it means "us", as in every CA here who is taking massive hits on Seat, Pay, QOL.

I made over $200,000 in 2011 as an eight year F/O. Tell me again how your Captains are taking a massive hit in pay?

 

[canyonblue]

So why am I and just about every other Capt. at ATN supposed to give up our CA seats and 30-35%seniority? Please answer that and try to leave the arrogance out of it.

Because your airline was acquired by my airline, not arrogance, just a fact. If it weren't for Bond/McDildo you would have been stapled.

Keep in mind that ATN was/is a fully fuctional, profitable, Major airline which was also expanding.

Not as well as you think, based on the AAI cities we are dropping. If it was worthwhile, Southwest wouldn't close it.

Here is a list of the HOT SPOTS you expanded to and we didn't:

Huntsville/Decatur

Key West

Pensacola

Sarasota/Bradenton

Des Moines

Wichita

Lexington

Portland

Flint

Grand Rapids

Branson

Rochester

White Plains

Charlotte

Akron/Canton

Dayton

Allentown

Harrisburg

Memphis

Richmond

Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport

 

[General Lee]

There goes Juan again, acting like the dip$hit he is. When I was referring to door-less I meant people were unable to OPEN the doors - so, they entered through the open windows - just jumped through. I remember that show well - I even remember the "cousins" who took over for Bo and Luke while they were negotiating higher contracts. Sadly, I also remember the offshoot show in which Ennis joined the LA police force - did not last long.

Quit being such an idiot Juan - nobody respects your lame posts.

Now that is funny. Juan really is an idiot.


Bye Bye--- General Lee

 

[DonVerita]

I made over $200,000 in 2011 as an eight year F/O. Tell me again how your Captains are taking a massive hit in pay?

Wow...and to do that you must have worked just about every one of your days off.

I made more than that last year as a CA with plenty of days off.

 

[canyonblue]

I made more than that last year as a CA with plenty of days off.

Sure you did.

 

[DonVerita]

This ^^^^

You would have kept your beloved Captain seat, domicle, AND received Southwest Captain pay for 10 friggin years if your MEC didn't pull the plug. You can blame them, not us. That's what your NC negotiated for.

As Wave alluded to, in most industries, the smaller company employees MAY be offered jobs at the acquiring company. When your company gets bought your not entitled to anything! Look at other industries and let me know. Most times the employees are let go and the office closed. It's called eliminating a competitor. Happens everyday in the country.

Wrong again.

SLI #1, which the MEC voted down for the POS it was, would have eliminated all 717 CA seat protections if there was a reduction of even 1 airframe from that fleet. Yet SWA kept saying all along that they were going to keep that plane until natural lease expiration beginning in 2017 and going through 2023; and kept saying this even while they were trying to get Delta to sublease them.

As for "smaller companies"...that may apply to anything outside of airlines. But with airlines there are laws in place such as Allegheny-Mohawk and Bond-McCaskill to see to it that the pilots of the acquired airline do not get sent to the street; a concrete item that you still fail to understand.

 

[LeeRoyJenkins]

Wow...and to do that you must have worked just about every one of your days off.

I made more than that last year as a CA with plenty of days off.

Averaged 15 days off a month.

Had I been a Captain I would have cleared over $300,000

You obviously know nothing of our contract or QOL at SWA. Stay angry all you want but your angst should go towards your MEC. They are they ones that did this to you.

 

[LeeRoyJenkins]

As for "smaller companies"...that may apply to anything outside of airlines. But with airlines there are laws in place such as Allegheny-Mohawk and Bond-McCaskill to see to it that the pilots of the acquired airline do not get sent to the street; a concrete item that you still fail to understand.

The AAI pilots voted for this by a margin of 85%. Thus throwing Bond-McCaskill out the window.

You could have sent this to binding arbitration but elected not to.

All your group had to do was vote no.

 

[LeeRoyJenkins]

Don,

I will also remind you of what one of your pilots stated here not all that long ago.

Please buy AAI! Even Staple. Anything to put us out of our misery. The MESA with boeings has gotten worse by the day.

I know 800 +- FO's who would take a staple today. About half the CA's would get a pay raise as WN FO's and the other half have hugh ego's that will say no to anything.

Quite simply get over yourself Don. You are not near as important as you think you are.

 

[Whine Lover]

" (AAI Pilots) would have kept your beloved Captain seat, domicile, AND received Southwest Captain pay for 10 friggin years if your MEC didn't pull the plug. You can blame them, not us. "

Absolutely correct.

Frontier's debacle was the same at the core of it....They would be SWA pilots now, and not Republic flunkies, IF their MEC had not pulled the plug.


The only blame for any of these debacles lies squarely on the respective MEC D-Wads, who's egos apparently exceeded their IQ's.

In both cases...SWA made a MORE than generous offer and the MEC's decided to negotiate themselves out of most, or all of it, without letting the Membership determine their own course.

You can't help "STUPID"......." Hi, would you like to join my Secret Club and stop living in that trailer, and could I put a million dollars in your bank account?"

"OH NO YOU DON'T!...Don't try and fool around with me, I'm smart and I have a title and everything....besides we are also skilled negotiators. NOW, how about I join your club in 2-5 years, and you give me $300,000 instead?

Genius.

And, if you are an AAI pilot and have even an OUNCE of animosity towards your new EMPLOYER....you are about as smart as your MEC.


Thank God you guys even got a second offer .... after your MEC biting the hand the tried to feed you ( very well ) the first time.


YKW