Wasn't [it] great when.....

[Rez O. Lewshun]

oh no. not another "crabby fa" bashing. yawn zzzzzzz........

BFD. like this is something new.

cant deal with a fa who isnt in the best of moods , then take a bus or train!

This is why the Legacy Carriers, in part, have poor service. You just told your revenue to take a hike. The passengers who provide revenue, which is converted to your paycheck, get to choose...another carrier.

This is my arguement, 20 something FA's aren't jadded, they can have a bad day and filter it out better. They have a fresh outlook on life. Sure it is a generalization, but so are 20 something Hooters girls, as opposed to 50 something Hooters girls. Age might have something to do with it.

But lets be fair, the Legacy culture, heavily influenced by management has alot to do with it.

"The passengers are the enemy"- UAL FA on Letterman who quickly became an ex-UAL FA. (what happened to her BTW?)

 

[Linn Guini]

This is why the Legacy Carriers, in part, have poor service. You just told your revenue to take a hike. The passengers who provide revenue, which is converted to your paycheck, get to choose...another carrier.

This is my arguement, 20 something FA's aren't jadded, they can have a bad day and filter it out better. They have a fresh outlook on life. Sure it is a generalization, but so are 20 something Hooters girls, as opposed to 50 something Hooters girls. Age might have something to do with it.

But lets be fair, the Legacy culture, heavily influenced by management has alot to do with it.

"The passengers are the enemy"- UAL FA on Letterman who quickly became an ex-UAL FA. (what happened to her BTW?)

Please, spare us the melodramatics! like one person being told to take a train or bus is gonna hurt an airline! lol! give me a break. lol :laugh:

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Please, spare us the melodramatics! like one person being told to take a train or bus is gonna hurt an airline! lol! give me a break. lol :laugh:

Actually, I was hoping you'd spare us your bitter attitude when I fly on your airline. Obviously, you don't expect you to do that, rather you expect your passengers to deal with your attitude!

Now it is two FA's. And when I think of the other cantankerous Legacy FA's I've delt with while jumpseating and DH'ing there is alot more. And your attitude coincides, with your spin of melodramatics, if every FA like you justifies their bad attitude with "like one person being told to take a train or bus is gonna hurt an airline!" you guys will be better organized than ALPA and you won't even know it.

Again, most of it has to do with Legacy management attitude and culture, it filters down...

Then again, there is Free Will.

 

[stonewall]

I think Gorilla nailed it. Everyone on board is willing to go out of their way for a pax paying a premium (or even a reasonable) fare. But so many of the travellers these days paid nickels for the tik, show up in jammies, expect 4 star service, and then act condescending and irritated when they don't get it.

Cheap fares are good for the public. But when you pay cattle car fares, expect to get treated like cattle. Don't ask for more. Everyone should be polite, including the pax!

I like boxes....

 

[L'il J.Seinfeld]

Every FA should be under 30, under size 6, and under 120 lbs.

Speaking of FAs, where is GADawgsGirl?

 

[PHXFLYR]

I don't need saving, I sit by the window emergency exit row and would have no problem getting myself and others out. As far as judging the FAs, nope, not there to do that, but it is funny how an otherwise unmemorable trip is now etched in my mind cause of the bad attitudes of three. Guess they just had better things to do on a Sunday night, then take care of their customers on a 1/3 full A319.

I didn't criticize their looks by the way, just their attitudes. Yes I'm all grown up and I think it would be more like the inside cover of GQ. Remember customer service girls and boys! Just like the stories of pilots ordering pizza and McD's for passengers after a delay or divert.

Don't go confusing the "Safety Professionals" with the facts, now

PHXFLYR

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

I think Gorilla nailed it. Everyone on board is willing to go out of their way for a pax paying a premium (or even a reasonable) fare. But so many of the travellers these days paid nickels for the tik, show up in jammies, expect 4 star service, and then act condescending and irritated when they don't get it.

Cheap fares are good for the public. But when you pay cattle car fares, expect to get treated like cattle. Don't ask for more. Everyone should be polite, including the pax!

I like boxes....

Sorry magnum... got to disagree.....

There are plenty of people flying the LCC's, paying dirt for tickets and getting great service....

Next time you are on the "glamorous" side of the airport, do an casual poll. Ask ten paying passengers if they expect or would even like thier FAs to have a positive attitude.

Now, I'll defer to the King of Kings.... SWA. They do both... sell cheap tickets and offer great service. They've made money for 30 years....

Look- people are a reflection of their environement and culture. Sometime embarrassingly so.....

The Legacy Carrier FA's have alot to be bitter about.... but how do you justify treating another human being poorly, when all they did was buy a ticket on an airline?

I like boxes too, they don't complain...but you know what...they don't say thank you either....

 

[FlyUnited]

I hate to disagree, many of the legacy carriers have been recieving "best of" awards lately for incredible service.

Seinfeld - Are you for real???? If that's the case, all pilots should be handsome, fit and wear normal, non-dork clothes on layovers. But that isn't happening either. What is the deal with how you people dress? Scary!

 

[L'il J.Seinfeld]

I hate to disagree, many of the legacy carriers have been recieving "best of" awards lately for incredible service.

Seinfeld - Are you for real???? If that's the case, all pilots should be handsome, fit and wear normal, non-dork clothes on layovers. But that isn't happening either. What is the deal with how you people dress? Scary!

LMAO. I could not agree more. Many old dudes dress like, well, old dudes. BTW, all the handsome pilots are flying night freight at UPS!!

 

[Gatorman]

Every FA should be under 30, under size 6, and under 120 lbs.

I'd still pay to see an FA throw a 12/15man life raft out an emergency exit$$$$

 

[mordi]

The young ones may look good and perky, but some of the best service comes from older ones. They seem to know just what you want. Where do you think the word milf came from!

 

[EMB170Pilot]

Wasn't it great when the pilots were all charming, personable, likable...................... quote]

Sorry honey...I'm already married! You have to settle for one of those types

 

[pgcfii2002]

Flight Attendants are hot.....regardless of age.

 

[Blucher]

Come on now...

Come on now, everybody has a bad day from time to time. No reason to get all personal in your attacks. All I ask is that the FA's can do the job they were hired to do which, in case some of you have forgotten, is primarily to take care of masses in the event of an emergency. I can't deny that when I'm riding in back and I see a double-wide doing a safety demo I'm not thinking about how I'm going to beat him/her to the window exit before it gets plugged with their (or any passenger's) mass. I really don't think it's too much to ask that every crew member must be able to fit through the smallest exit on the aircraft he/she works (this goes for pilots too, although I worry about them less...they might be senior to me!). In my mind age doesn't really come into play until the person can no longer move themself and/or others in the event of an emergency.
I've always told the FA's I've worked with before that I have the utmost respect for them, because there's no way I could put up with some of the nonsense I've seen passengers throw at them. Same goes for those poor gate agents. How these people manage to come back to work day after day without shooting people is completely beyond me, but God bless 'em for it! I'm sorry the person who started this thread had a bad experience, but I suggest that that person had an opportunity to help and did nothing. When I see someone obviously having a bad day I will try to at least put a temporary smile on their face. Ask him/her what's wrong, if there's anything you can do to help (yes, that includes when you're a passenger-especially as a nonrev). If you see that mood setting in for another crew member do whatever you can to reverse it. As another crew member, regardless of where you work, you should understand that not every trip is a smooth ride out to your 30 hour HNL overnight.
And to all you guys/gals in the back, thank you. The majority of us really do appreciate what you do.

-Blucher

 

[pgcfii2002]

Gate agents are hot too....especially the ladies at SWA.....

 

[Gatorman]

Awww....

I still wana see the FA that can throw a 12man life raft out a gulfstream emergency exit!!!

 

[Lear Wanna Be]

Gatorman,

I think you want to see an FA throw that raft!! LOL....Hey, I would pay to see you throw it out the G emergency exit. When is the next training session on egress procedures?

 

[capt. megadeth]

LOL! ha ha....no doubt.

I have probably seen a total of 5 good looking pilots in my short 8 year airline career.

oh and i suppose your the front cover for GQ magazine?????!! lets see what you look like ace!

 

[xjlifer]

we have one pilot at our airline that is placed in the cockpit with a cherry picker after they cut a hole in the roof. No sh!t he is that fat....if he ever caught on fire it would be like one of those tire fires ..he would burn for a week.

He also thinks he is quite the lady's man.

 

[Gatorman]

Gatorman,

I think you want to see an FA throw that raft!! LOL....Hey, I would pay to see you throw it out the G emergency exit. When is the next training session on egress procedures?

Sheesh, I have a hard enough time trying to get myself out one of those stupid windows. (Now is it head, foot, foot or foot, head, foot, or is it foot, foot, head?)

You go down in a flaming Gulfstream......well I guess that safety was an after thought when building that airframe.