WARN letter

[zawillif]

Any word on how the shareholder's meeting went today?

 

[pdub20s]

i was told that the bottom 400 pilots got the letter. I was 395 out of 400. Im just 5 folks short of being safe. I just got to hope 5 people ahead of me quit soon.

 

[hockeypilot44]

Why are you so attached to Mesa? I'm assuming when you started, you only had a few hundred hours, or you wouldn't have went there in the first place. If I were you, I would have used them to get some flight time, then left as fast as possible. I don't think anyone will feel sorry for you if you get furloughed.

 

[khsgt]

i was told that the bottom 400 pilots got the letter. I was 395 out of 400. Im just 5 folks short of being safe. I just got to hope 5 people ahead of me quit soon.

How many are on the master seniority list right now?

 

[khsgt]

Why are you so attached to Mesa? I'm assuming when you started, you only had a few hundred hours, or you wouldn't have went there in the first place. If I were you, I would have used them to get some flight time, then left as fast as possible. I don't think anyone will feel sorry for you if you get furloughed.

I feel sorry for any other pilots misfortune, whether they are Mesa or not. These guys are set up with a job and now will have to go looking (for the betterment of society none the less) while being unemployeed. Remember, it is much easier to find a flying job when you have a flying job. This may be the best thing that will have ever happened to them, but it surely won't be fun.

To all the Mesa guys, get your shiznit out and be ready for the house to tumble down at any moment. It is much better to be watching this fiasco from afar. I wouldn't be turning down ANY other flying job right now if I were you.

Good luck to my former crewmembers...I fear you may need it.

 

[dooork]

Easy pdub, the warn letter legally has to be sent.It will hinge on the injunction hearing at the end of the month.

 

[8sm]

The industry is like an elephant walking a tight wire. All you have to do is look at the cost of oil and know there is a trickle down affect. The higher the senority the better, however if the companies no longer in business your as close to the unemployment line as the last guy in. Everyone should have an exit plan if you or your family is depending on income from aviation. There will always be aviation, the question is who has the staying power to ride out the industrys challenges. All the best to those employees affected by these canllenges. They are hardworking aviation employee looking at layoffs and furloughs. Not an easy thing to do especially when wages are not keeping up the inflation....but thats a whole different number of greedy Bast...rds running that show.
Peace and thank a solider when you see one......8sm

 

[Erlanger]

Here's what the "WARN" letter is all about.

http://www.doleta.gov/programs/factsht/warn.htm

 

[TAWS]

Take some advice from someone who has been furloughed before:

GET OUT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Even if you didn't get the letter, this is a ship that's sinking fast!!

PDub - don't wish against this happening, it'll be a blessing in disguise and you'll find something better. One day you'll look back and thank God that you bailed when you did.

 

[KingAirKiddo]

i was told that the bottom 400 pilots got the letter. I was 395 out of 400. Im just 5 folks short of being safe. I just got to hope 5 people ahead of me quit soon.

Pdub, it is time to bail. Immediately. You have been him-hawing for the past couple of months about Mesa's predicament. This should be writing on the wall in large neon letters.

You gained some good experience from Mesa, had some fun, met some great people and so on, but dude...how much more of a sign do you need that it's time to move on?

I'm honestly not trying to pick on you...just trying to get you to see the light as someone who has been there. Best of luck!

KAK

 

[pdub20s]

One reason for me not leaving MESA was because all of the Seniority I had occurred. Im 1139 out of 1500. My seniority can hold Capt. on the CRJ if I met ICAO mins. No, I was not hired on with only a couple hundred hours.

I had been holding back recently because all the instability in the industry and I thought that the last place to be is at the bottom of somebodys seniority list vulnerable to furlough. I dodged that bullet at RAH by not taking the job(ie folks in training were let go because of the Frontier mess).

I guess I wasnt as senior as I thought. So I have no choice but to bail.

BTW, does Eagle have a ERJ base in MIA?

 

[AV1ATRX]

BTW, does Eagle have a ERJ base in MIA?

No, only the ATR in MIA and it's pretty senior.

ERJ bases for Eagle: BOS, LGA, ORD, DFW, LAX. (LAX also ridiculously senior).

 

[dispatchguy]

Eject

Eject

Eject

 

[flyboyike]

One reason for me not leaving MESA was because all of the Seniority I had occurred.

Occurred, eh?

 

[Tarzan]

Occurred, eh?

Give the guy a break. He did go to work for Mesa after all.

pdub, I believe it is incurred.

 

[wmuflyguy]

Give the guy a break. He did go to work for Mesa after all.

pdub, I believe it is incurred.

accrued; as to gain something.

 

[mozzer]

Give the guy a break. He did go to work for Mesa after all.

pdub, I believe it is incurred.

try accrued, I think it fits

 

[BoilerUP]

You need to seriously look into Planesense/Alpha Flying.

 

[Soverytired]

If flying if Florida is your primary goal, you might consider Dayjets.

Lots of risk at this company (startup, new airplane, new business model), but the biggest problem is that the "VLJ" (very light jet) category is unlikely to impress future legacy/major airlines.

On the plus side, it's $50k/yr, in Florida, day trips only, and you may be able to parlay the experience into a decent corporate job or fractional.

Get those applications churned out! Even in good hiring times, you'll probably have to wait 1-2 months minimum before you get any calls, then another month at least before you get a class date.

 

[Dizel8]

I thought DayJet had stopped hiring and had laid off people!