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mattpilot said:
- Poor management. I'm sure you heard about the brand new king air they bought a while ago? Well, they had to sell it again because the insurance requirements were insane. 500 hours on type. None of them instructors had that, so they had to sell it again. Some money lost there.
Ole Victor - I've flown this airplane a couple different times. NICE airplane, looks like it came right out of the factory. By far the nicest 90 I've ever had the pleasure of flying. Don't think they lost much money on it, cause they sold it for a cherry price!

http://www.foxflite.com/3-05_BEECH_KING_AIR_C90B.htm
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=734168&size=L

And for the record, I've also flown N127HT - thats the biggest turd of an airplane I've ever set foot in. Those Chinese have rode tht 90 hard and put her up wet. What an embarassment to fly. Nevermind we lost pressurization in it TWICE on one trip. Ended up having to fly at 8,000 feet all the way to our destination(s).

Here's a photo of this gem:
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=510584&size=L

OK... I'm moving on... sorry...
 
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SigAV8R said:
I'm Chinese and I was competent to get all my ratings. On top of that, someones thinks I smart enuf to sit in the rigt seat of a jet aeroplane. Maybe I'z smart nuf not to go to Spartan and that's wy I'z did good.
Which brings up a inquiring question from User:

What is the pass/fail ratio of these Chinese students that you say are incomeptent and bomb there checkrides multiple times? Do they eventually get "given" a certificate for trying, or are they sent home with nothing?

And I'm not questioning your assessment of these people, I have had more then a few close calls while arriving and departing RVS because of these guys who refuse to speak on the radio, or when they do give absolute zero useful information.
 
Glad I left Spartan...heard from a friend there last night about the problems.

Y'all need to get the hell out of there. Go to The british dudes between spartan and christianson. Then go somewhere, anywhere.
 
SigAV8R said:
I'm Chinese and I was competent to get all my ratings. On top of that, someones thinks I smart enuf to sit in the rigt seat of a jet aeroplane. Maybe I'z smart nuf not to go to Spartan and that's wy I'z did good.

Dude - i wasn't talking about every chinese in the world. I was talking about the chinese that get sent to spartan.

The problem with most of them is they can't understand english. Its spartan's job to teach them english and get them through the program. You ask them a question and they say "yes sir!" to everything. Now thats not all of them - mostly only the new guys. And no, not everyone is 'incompetent'. The guys that i question are those that land at Tinker AFB while on a XC to Ardmore. Now once they learn english, things get a lot easier, so i'm told by the CFI's.

What is the pass/fail ratio of these Chinese students that you say are incomeptent and bomb there checkrides multiple times? Do they eventually get "given" a certificate for trying, or are they sent home with nothing?

As i understand it, chinese philosophy is about trying as hard as you can. Even if you fail at something 10x but you keep on trying, you still bring honor to your family. I can't remember the exact quote, but something along those lines was in my psychology book.

Even if they do screw up, most of them stay here and finish the program. They just try and try and try. If they get sent home, they bring dishonor to their family (so i'm told). Even the dude that landed at haskell and taxied on a road past a street stop sign and then finally into a hanger stayed (until he screwed up again, then he got sent home).
 
Two weeks before classes started at Spartan Fall '04 I changed my mind about going there. I'm sure glad I did.
 
The dude landing at Tinker was hilarious. Made the news here in OKC. They said he was "worried about being low on fuel" or something of the sort. Has to be more to the story than that.......
 
hoop said:
The dude landing at Tinker was hilarious. Made the news here in OKC. They said he was "worried about being low on fuel" or something of the sort. Has to be more to the story than that.......

Fuel wasn't the problem. The instructors that went there took a few fuel canister with them (the airforce wouldn't fuel them), but once they got there, they discovered the fuel tank was nearly full.

Also, when the chinese guy landed there, he didn't use the radio at all... IIRC, it was said he simply got lost and diverted. But why didn't he go to shawnee or OKC? We don't know what he was thinking. Anyhow, last i heard the guy is still at spartan flying around. Why? Every single one of those chinese guys has diplomatic immunity. Insane, ain't it?
 

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