Wall Street Jornal: NWA "reworks plan for merger"

[Tanker Clown]

So, are you DAL/NWA guys going to wait until the merger goes through to start denying jumpseats?

My advice, both groups should invest in their own personal 5 gallon buckets of KY. And update the apps if your in the bottom 20%.[/quote]

And your advice based on your military flying and current desk job? What, you've completed your photocopying for the day and now you are contemplating the future of the legacy carriers? You have ZERO credibility. Thanks for your time.

Your right. You have all the cred. I have 0. I am in awe of your greatness. By the way, what's an E145? Is that a prop or a jet? What major do you work for?

 

[Superpilot92]

As an outsider looking in, I wonder if anyone on this board (NWA or DAL) actually has the correct information regarding pilot integration. I've seen 10 different scenarios by 8 different people...finger pointing all over the place.

So much anger and animosity between the two groups, yet I don't think anyone has posted a scenario which wasn't picked apart and "debunked" by someone else.

I wish both sides the best (as I have friends at both).

thats EXACTLY what i have been saying. Flaming one another is unproductive and is very juvenile. Bottom line is no matter how much each of us "knows" the real deal, we dont. The idea is to be realistic and realize that just because you heard one side doesnt mean its true. Wake up guys

 

[737 Pylt]

And your advice based on your military flying and current desk job? What, you've completed your photocopying for the day and now you are contemplating the future of the legacy carriers? You have ZERO credibility. Thanks for your time.

Let's not forget about his 20 years of military....eh em.....flying.......and a whopping 1800+ hours.
Yeah, he's a tanker pilot:laugh:!
That must be what they're calling the copy machine in the barracks these days!

Hey Private, isn't it time for another cup of coffee for the colonel!:laugh:

737

 

[Superpilot92]

The only thing that is crystal clear is that Steeland really, really wants his merger-related BONUS. You NWA pilots should be proud...

Yeah because we pilots have everything to do with our CEO! I hope you realize how stupid that sounds, get a clue

Do you even work for either carrier? I know i say flames are pointless but you earned some "correction"

 

[Tanker Clown]

Let's not forget about his 20 years of military....eh em.....flying.......and a whopping 1800+ hours.
Yeah, he's a tanker pilot:laugh:!
That must be what they're calling the copy machine in the barracks these days!

Hey Private, isn't it time for another cup of coffee for the colonel!:laugh:

737

There's no barracks in the Air Force dumb dumb.

By the way, I'm probably well over 1800 hours if I get a multiplier.

 

[Sedona16]

Bottom line is that Delta/NWA will not get a merger passed if Delta and/or NWA pilots are marching publicly and in the papers with government officials at their side against it. Anderson knows this and wont damage his somewhat good will with the pilots to force a merger that will get stopped in its tracks anyway.

I can tell you there will not be any Delta pilot support without at least the same incentives offer as was put up before along with the percentage ratio they previously proposed. The NWA guys have a definate track record of infighting. Unless something changes i dont see how this is going to work.

 

[Max Powers]

Then why does nwa keep coming back?
Get a clue max!


How about a union leadership with 26 arbitrations in 22 years......
Keep showing your ignorance max. detoilet320 could use a date, you should give him a call!

737

What in the Frac are you talking about.......Please and I mean please get some therapy.....When we find out who you are we will put all call in to the feds no one and I mean no one so weird and out of touch should be flying.

 

[Tanker Clown]

Sedona,

It doesn't have to work to go through. Ask the East/West guys. I guess you guys will be the North/South guys now. Someone's gonna get the screwgie.

 

[Sedona16]

Sedona,

It doesn't have to work to go through. Ask the East/West guys. I guess you guys will be the North/South guys now. Someone's gonna get the screwgie.

You are wrong. The Delta pilots can block a deal and have already demonstrated this with the previous US Airways attempt. The fact Doug from AWA was able to buy/combine with US Airways who was in dire straits is not the same.

 

[FDJ2]

Relax folks, all I've seen recently is that NWA management wants a merger with DAL. No surprise there.

I'm not too sure at this point if DAL is that interested in this merger. Consolidation , maybe, but maybe not with NWA.

Regardless, the transaction framework agreement we had two months ago is dead.

 

[jehtplane]

"Basically, unless Delta management has a change a heart, I don't think they're going to do anything without the support of their pilots," said Calyon Securities analyst Ray Neidl.
"It shows that people don't want it to die and they'll keep trying things, but I don't think it puts us any closer."



Bye Bye--General Lee

Yeah keep thinking that you have the control of the company and that management gives two @#%$ about what the pilots think in all of this. Get ready for a big fat @#%$burger with everything on it.

 

[Tanker Clown]

You are wrong. The Delta pilots can block a deal and have already demonstrated this with the previous US Airways attempt. The fact Doug from AWA was able to buy/combine with US Airways who was in dire straits is not the same.

Last time your mgt was on board with "Keep Delta my Delta." Throw in some hedge fund folks and some cash in Anderson's direction, and it's a done deal. It would be foolish to think that Anderson wouldn't promote a merger if he could personally profit from it. It's in he CEO DNA.

 

[johnsonrod]

Your right. You have all the cred. I have 0. I am in awe of your greatness. By the way, what's an E145? Is that a prop or a jet? What major do you work for?

So now you answer questions with questions - good job. I actually work in the airline business - you DON'T. Get it? The military ain't the airline business. You are a desk jockey. Plus, your petty remarks and doomy speculation isn't that entertaining.

Again, can you give us any facts to back up your bottom 20% estimation? Or, are you just being an arsehole?

 

[Tanker Clown]

So now you answer questions with questions - good job. I actually work in the airline business - you DON'T. Get it? The military ain't the airline business. You are a desk jockey. Plus, your petty remarks and doomy speculation isn't that entertaining.

Again, can you give us any facts to back up your bottom 20% estimation? Or, are you just being an arsehole?

Recession + $110/bbl oil + consolidation = cutbacks (i.e. furloughs). The whole point is to try and drive up margins isn't it? Why combine and keep the same number of flights?

I'm sure that whatever company you work for that flies whatever an E145 is is probably one of the first to get nasty in this climate. That is, unless they cut your pay, which judging by the pay rates at airlinepilotcentral, would be like putting a kid from Darfur on a diet.

 

[Superpilot92]

One thing is for certain, Its a good thing decisions aren't made from these stupid boards. You all sound like a bunch of whiny little girls. Its getting pretty embarrassing, seriously. No wonder this career field is in its current state. Could you imagine if we actually had a solid ALPA pilot group instead of every man for themselves? Again WAKE UP , things need to change.:bomb: