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greyskyracer

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Hello,

I, like countless others, am trying to get on with Virgin. I have my app in, but have a few questions about the operation.

I apologize if these have been asked in other threads. I looked but couldn't find the answers.

What are the schedules like? For both reserve and line holders.

Do pilots typically break the 82 hour trigger?

Any jump seating problems on other airlines?

Do your pilots operate for Myrtle Beach direct Air, or just the planes? Is there a MYR base?

What is the Moral, do you enjoy working there?

Thank you in advance and please feel free to PM me if you perfer
 
Hello,

I, like countless others, am trying to get on with Virgin. I have my app in, but have a few questions about the operation.

I apologize if these have been asked in other threads. I looked but couldn't find the answers.

What are the schedules like? For both reserve and line holders. (Getting better for both as hiring continues as we were very short)

Do pilots typically break the 82 hour trigger? (Don't know)

Any jump seating problems on other airlines? (No, occasionally some cheap shots from the 10%ers )

Do your pilots operate for Myrtle Beach direct Air, or just the planes? Is there a MYR base? (No MYR base)

What is the Moral, do you enjoy working there? (Its better than unemployment and once growth starts again it will be better.)

Rob Bendall is the CP.

Thank you in advance and please feel free to PM me if you perfer

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I've had my app in for 2 years. I have a bunch of good time and I meet all of the requirements but no 320 type. Is everyone that is getting hired have one? Is there anything I can do to get an interview?
 
I've got the A320 type and 2000 hours in type and an internal rec. My buddy there already warned me it might not be enough; lot's of folks with the internal rec. in the interview pile.
 
I've had my app in for 2 years. I have a bunch of good time and I meet all of the requirements but no 320 type. Is everyone that is getting hired have one? Is there anything I can do to get an interview?

Nope, not a requirement and does not increase your chances. There are many here and many hired recently with no airbus time.
 
One if there Capt asked me when will we start hiring again....as he cant wait to get out....He said his W2 is less than our FO on the BUS :crying:.
 
A few questions about VA benefits:

How is the health insurance and what do you pay monthly for family coverage?

What knd of travel benefits do you have and are there ID/ZED agreements in place with international carriers?

How many days off are you guarenteed?

Thanks.
 
But remember you can also wear the "Uniform Shirt" - Something that's formal but also says Hey, I like to party too.

SHAKE-N-BAKE ............
 
I forget exactly how much I pay per month for health insurance, but for my wife and I, I think it's around $220/month.

We don't have many international travel bennies, but they are increasing as time goes on. My wife has bennies from another airline so we use those, sorry I can't give you more details. I do know it's mostly ZED fares and ID90s... with some though it's better just to buy a ticket.

I am not sure how many days off we are guaranteed, but i think it's 10 or 11 days off depending on the length of the month. The reserve rules are pretty bad, but like everything else it's improving... slowly. Hopefully with the hiring and the increased flying it will be less of an issue.

As far as the 82 hours goes... I try to fly about 92 hours and most months I am able. In fact I don't think i've been below 80 in over a year.

The 82 hour deal goes down to 80 in June, along with a pay raise. Captains will be bumped up 5$, and I think third year FOs and up will get the same... year 2 only goes up $2. So with that, and my longevity increase, by the end of 2010 I will get $120/hr as a fifth year Capt. Hardly industry average, but we are getting closer.

Like any company there are good and bad things here. For the most part, as crews we have a pretty good time, and the work is pretty easy.

For the guys who couldn't be paid enough to work here... fine, but what does that have to do with the price of tea in China? Plenty of companies that I don't want to work for, maybe even yours... but who cares? Sure beats unemployment.
 
I forget exactly how much I pay per month for health insurance, but for my wife and I, I think it's around $220/month.

We don't have many international travel bennies, but they are increasing as time goes on. My wife has bennies from another airline so we use those, sorry I can't give you more details. I do know it's mostly ZED fares and ID90s... with some though it's better just to buy a ticket.

I am not sure how many days off we are guaranteed, but i think it's 10 or 11 days off depending on the length of the month. The reserve rules are pretty bad, but like everything else it's improving... slowly. Hopefully with the hiring and the increased flying it will be less of an issue.

As far as the 82 hours goes... I try to fly about 92 hours and most months I am able. In fact I don't think i've been below 80 in over a year.

The 82 hour deal goes down to 80 in June, along with a pay raise. Captains will be bumped up 5$, and I think third year FOs and up will get the same... year 2 only goes up $2. So with that, and my longevity increase, by the end of 2010 I will get $120/hr as a fifth year Capt. Hardly industry average, but we are getting closer.

Like any company there are good and bad things here. For the most part, as crews we have a pretty good time, and the work is pretty easy.

For the guys who couldn't be paid enough to work here... fine, but what does that have to do with the price of tea in China? Plenty of companies that I don't want to work for, maybe even yours... but who cares? Sure beats unemployment.

Thanks, been invited for the interview and am looking forward to it. Pay can always be better, we all know that. But year one pay at VA is almost double year one pay at the regional I just started at after nearly a year of unemployment. In fact my year one pay at the regional is less than the unemployment pay I was receiving.

Hopefully the news will be good. Can't believe I made it past that online aptitude test, man was I worn out after that thing.
 
Its a shame they hired all those Freedom A listers. I wouldnt want those backstabers on a seniorty list with me.
 
I think if you look into mesa/freedom you will see that freedom was go-jet before there was go-jet. Do some searching you may not want those people in a fox hole with you when negotiating a contract.
 
You are just pissed that you STILL have to wear a tie and hat! LOL LOSER.
I'm glad you are able to "LOL" at your own attempt at humor. You might as well have said, "Ooooh, burn!" too.

If I'm not wearing a green aramid flight suit, I'm happy to be wearing a tie with my uniform. We don't wear hats though.

If you're happy with your eurotrash uniform, that should be all that matters.
 
I'm glad you are able to "LOL" at your own attempt at humor. You might as well have said, "Ooooh, burn!" too.

If I'm not wearing a green aramid flight suit, I'm happy to be wearing a tie with my uniform. We don't wear hats though.

If you're happy with your eurotrash uniform, that should be all that matters.

No hat and no tie is a real bonus. Not to mention no brain bag to haul around! If you're lumpin me with Johnny Cash, I'll take that as a compliment, even with the euro trash....(I hear that look is making a comeback!):pimp:
 
No kidding. That's pretty much bottom of the barrel compensation for that equipment.


Yep...and you guys were there when you started also....something about the "pot calling the kettle black!" Pretty ironic how you guys were the "Dirtbags" of the industry and now...you have great pay and things are going pretty good.....give us time, we will be right there with ya.

But hey, THANKS for being so positive! :rolleyes:
 
Yep...and you guys were there when you started also....something about the "pot calling the kettle black!" Pretty ironic how you guys were the "Dirtbags" of the industry and now...you have great pay and things are going pretty good.....give us time, we will be right there with ya.

But hey, THANKS for being so positive! :rolleyes:

Yeah, I figured someone would come with that philosphy. But the fact is that are rates are right in the meaty party of the curve and our 190 rates should give the USAir and Republic guys some serious bargaining leverage.

So until you get your compensation up, SHUT IT!
 
Yeah, I figured someone would come with that philosphy. But the fact is that are rates are right in the meaty party of the curve and our 190 rates should give the USAir and Republic guys some serious bargaining leverage.

So until you get your compensation up, SHUT IT!



Spoken like a true TARD! Point the finger at everyone else and "conveniently forget" what it took you guys to get to where you are....that's fine. You are doing nothing but making yourself look foolish. Good luck with that. :rolleyes: Truly PATHETIC! Do the rest of the Jetblue Pilot group a favor....and STOP TALKING NOW. You are EMBARRASSING THEM.
 
Spoken like a true TARD! Point the finger at everyone else and "conveniently forget" what it took you guys to get to where you are....that's fine. You are doing nothing but making yourself look foolish. Good luck with that. :rolleyes: Truly PATHETIC! Do the rest of the Jetblue Pilot group a favor....and STOP TALKING NOW. You are EMBARRASSING THEM.

Spoken like a true botttom feeder.

Besides, your reserve guarantee, premium trigger, premium rate, vacation and per diem are definitely below what JB started at. Am I missing anything. Sorry, but numbers are numbers.
 
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Spoken like a true botttom feeder.

Besides, your reserve guarantee, premium trigger, premium rate, vacation and per diem are definitely below what JB started at. Am I missing anything. Sorry, but numbers are numbers.


TA...DUH! Thank you for proving my point. And by the way....we have to pay for our airplanes in the first 5 years....YOU DID NOT! Don't try to compare the two companies with "Start Up" costs...you won't even qualify. All kinds of things would be different if we did not have to pay for our planes for the first 5 yrs. Plus...WHAT was fuel per barrel when you started? But hey, thanks again for playing. :rolleyes:
 
Hey Fins up,
It was the jetblue 190 payrates that delta took to court and used to have a judge cut the comair 70 and 90 seat payrates. $89 an for a 12 year captain!
Man, how quickly you forget.

PS that was only two years ago!
 
Someone from JetBlue on here talking about raising the bar?!

Wow, was he born in 2008? JetBlue put a ton of downward pressure on overall pilot compensation over the first seven plus years of its existance. To deny that proves ignorance beyond compare.

In the end, what some ignorant fool posts here has no bearing on any of us. If you do not like what VA has to offer, then do not apply and be happy where you are at. If you look at VA, their philosophy, potential, and it looks good to you, apply and hope for the best.
 
A 16-hour flightmare

By JEREMY OLSHAN
Last Updated: 7:25 AM, March 16, 2010
Posted: 3:24 AM, March 16, 2010

They were supposed to be taking a direct flight from LAX to JFK -- but wound up on a 16-hour nightmare tour by air and bus of New York state.

Before finally arriving at their destination, the starving passengers of jinxed Virgin America Flight 404 had been stranded on a tarmac for seven hours and forced to ride a bus for another 2½ hours.

At one point, food supplies aboard the plane were so low that Pringles chips had to be rationed: four chips apiece, furious passengers told The Post.

"That's all we got -- four chips and half a cup of water," said disgusted flier Justin Gordon, 23.

Flight 404 had left LA at 7:10 a.m. (PST) -- 10:10 a.m. New York time -- Saturday and was due to arrive at JFK at 3:30 p.m.

But because of 60-mph winds here, the plane was forced to circle JFK until it was finally diverted to Stewart Airport in Newburgh -- 90 miles north -- for a 5:15 p.m. landing.

There, the plane remained on the tarmac until close to midnight, passengers say. The airline said the wait was more like 4½ hours.
Either way, passengers were growing increasingly frustrated -- with one woman suffering a panic attack. She was escorted off by police. The remaining cranky passengers included Carrie Ann Inaba of "Dancing with the Stars," the CEO of a social-networking firm who made videos and Twitter posts throughout the ordeal, and three screaming babies.

The captain and flight crew seemed to be overwhelmed, too, said David Martin, CEO of Kontain.com, who posted the frequent updates online.
"One guy said he had a question, and the flight attendant started shouting at this guy, 'You are really getting on my freaking nerves! You need to shut the hell up!' " Martin said.

He added, "Carrie Anne and I tried to bring cookies on the plane to the mothers with babies, and the flight attendants started snapping at us."
The passengers' white knight finally arrived -- in the form of JetBlue.

Contacted by the Virgin America captain because JetBlue has facilities at Stewart and Virgin doesn't, the competing airline sent over staffers, who boarded the plane.

"Ladies and gentleman, we're here to get you off the plane," a JetBlue employee said to cheers.

JetBlue arranged for buses to transport the passengers to Kennedy. Exhausted, the riders finally arrived at 2 a.m. -- actually, 3 a.m. because of the changeover to Daylight Savings Time.

Adding insult to injury, the Virgin plane had left Stewart empty -- and beat the passengers back to JFK.

After seeing Martin's posts and videos the next day, Virgin America CEO David Cush called him and Inaba to apologize, promising a full refund and $100 credit to all passengers.
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