Virgin America QOL

[AEROSQUADRON69]

All,

Thank you for your input. No one has a crystal ball. Just trying to see how those AT VA feel about things.
LAX base is good. Love the product. Branson's a winner, but there is only so much money you a company can bleed.
When will the 2nd qt financials be out?

 

[johnsonrod]

All,

Thank you for your input. No one has a crystal ball. Just trying to see how those AT VA feel about things.
LAX base is good. Love the product. Branson's a winner, but there is only so much money you a company can bleed.
When will the 2nd qt financials be out?

Why would you give up the chance to fly the glorious MRJ????? Don't miss that chance!!!! :laugh:

 

[BuckMurdock1]

When will the 2nd qt financials be out?

When it's a loss, usually several weeks after the rest of the airlines post their profits. When it's a horrific loss (like lastQTR), more than a month after. In all cases of loss, they release at 5pm PT on a friday. If profit, 8am on a Monday (n/a for VX).

I think if this friday comes with still no #s, it will mean even scarier #s than 1st QTR. hope i'm wrong

 

[Tomct]

Things here at VA could be better, but where weren't they better when airlines were startups. Things are improving, slowly, but they are going in the right direction. Don't pay attention to the "Haters," they will have nothing to do when we start to make money other than cry. Things haven't gone the way they thought(cashwise), mostly because they tried to do things cheaply here instead of just doing it the right way. Those things will improve and the money will come. Planes are coming...5 next year and from September of 2013 on, basically one a month through 2019 which will take us to 121 aircraft I believe. These aircraft already have the financing and will be coming. Things will only get better here...there is a union vote coming, so we will see how that turns out, but we can only go up from here. Branson and the money are not going anywhere. We will be fine. If you were to stay at OO, I would say you are crazy! People here are great and the trips are mostly productive. To stay at a regional would be a death sentence if you ask me....Delta is only going to shut down more 50's....good luck!

 

[AEROSQUADRON69]

Things here at VA could be better, but where weren't they better when airlines were startups. Things are improving, slowly, but they are going in the right direction. Don't pay attention to the "Haters," they will have nothing to do when we start to make money other than cry. Things haven't gone the way they thought(cashwise), mostly because they tried to do things cheaply here instead of just doing it the right way. Those things will improve and the money will come. Planes are coming...5 next year and from September of 2013 on, basically one a month through 2019 which will take us to 121 aircraft I believe. These aircraft already have the financing and will be coming. Things will only get better here...there is a union vote coming, so we will see how that turns out, but we can only go up from here. Branson and the money are not going anywhere. We will be fine. If you were to stay at OO, I would say you are crazy! People here are great and the trips are mostly productive. To stay at a regional would be a death sentence if you ask me....Delta is only going to shut down more 50's....good luck!

That's just Delta! Who knows what UAL's contract will look like regarding scope, 50's etc.. On that note, I'd rather be at OO than any other regional. But we are not the lowest bidder, when those contracts are up.... Doubt mainline management will be looking for the best performing, quality regional.

 

[Chairman]

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3) We've hired our last captain based on current orders. If you got hired today, you'd not upgrade based on current orders.
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Not quite true, 52 Current Airplanes currently on property 2019 total will be 111.

Chairman

 

[Flyer1015]

[QUOTE

3) We've hired our last captain based on current orders. If you got hired today, you'd not upgrade based on current orders.

Not quite true, 52 Current Airplanes currently on property 2019 total will be 111.

Chairman[/QUOTE]

Correct, not true. The guy posted "based on current orders." But based on current orders, someone hired today is probably looking at a 4-5 yr upgrade. We have plenty of orders! Question is, will those orders come as planned? Deferrals? Anything could happen.

 

[Chairman]

Not quite true, 52 Current Airplanes currently on property 2019 total will be 111.

Chairman

Correct, not true. The guy posted "based on current orders." But based on current orders, someone hired today is probably looking at a 4-5 yr upgrade. We have plenty of orders! Question is, will those orders come as planned? Deferrals? Anything could happen.[/QUOTE]

Totally Agree

 

[Texx]

Keep in mind, that in addition to trying to impress everyone with the list of random and unrelated ******************** he may or may not have done...

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He loves to bash an airline, the internal machinations of which he knows nothing about. Further it seems to stem from some odd inferiority complex from which he suffers as a result of being employed by an airline very similar in concept and initial structure to his own.

Cheers Click, ya lovable malcontent Blue Boy VA basher you.

How's the family out there? DU says hello.

 

[AEROSQUADRON69]

Any word on future classes and financials? Are most of the pilots feeling the need for a union quickly? If so, why? General protection unlike OO. Where someone could just start taking from an employee group with no questions asked (at will/free will)

 

[AeroDMB]

What's going on at VX with regard to future hiring outlook? I imagine most of the UAL, AA, and others accepting recalls coupled with attrition might open things up.

 

[bri5150]

What's going on at VX with regard to future hiring outlook? I imagine most of the UAL, AA, and others accepting recalls coupled with attrition might open things up.

Word is poolies in class in March and more needed for better aircraft utiliztion and crews per aircraft.

 

[Flyer1015]

Attrition is from FOs. Some UAL furloughees going back to Uni/Cal, and some FOs are making moves to Spirit and JetBlue. We get 1 Airbus this year, plus some attrition, so there should be some limited amounts of hiring. I know late last year, they pulled the plug on hiring and came across one pilot who had an interview and then it was pulled. I would imagine that there is a pool of pilots that either 1. have interviewed and are waiting for a future class or 2. had an interview and were cancelled. These guys will get the first shot of whatever class comes up. Once these candidates are drained, the hiring window should open up online. I think it will open up later this year.

 

[CapnVegetto]

I personally know a guy that had his interview canceled.

I honestly don't know how they are still in business. They have lost so much money, have no price control on any of their routes, and have all the big boys trying to kill them.

Airlines are notoriously difficult to kill. They are the cockroaches of the business world. But VA has to be in its death throes.

I could be wrong, though. A lot of people said that about US Air a few years ago.

 

[DCMartin]

Branson does 22 bil in revenue between all of his companies. I am getting the feeling Virgin America is more of a Branding scheme than an airline. I don't see them going away. The Virgin name isnt as big in the US as other countries and I think SRB wants that changed. With the launch of Virgin Hotels recently for example, I think you will see more of his products soon...I think other airlines know this and you will see more code-shares soon which will limit Virgin's presence into their respective markets...unless SRB keels over I suspect VX jobs will be stagnant but secure.