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Snaab

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I was interested what the hiring window looks like for the near future at Virgin America. How long is it taking for guys to get offered an interview after submitting the application and assessment? What's been competitive? Do internal rec's help much? Finally, how is the assessment scored?

I'm very much interested in learning more. Thanks very much. I applied yesterday.
 
There has been lots of hiring that has continued from last year into May this year. After the last aircraft is on property this May, the hiring is suppose to trickle down to a near stop, hiring only for attrition of about 4 to 5 pilots per month. After you submit the assessment, it will be hand-graded. Most people would hear within one month if they passed, and wouldn't hear anything if they didn't pass.

Competitive is anyone's guess, but if you have an ATP and 4000TT, you're fair game, even without internal recs. As of right now, the key to getting the interview is passing the online assessment. It doesn't matter how many internal recs you have, HR is steadfast on you passing the online test first. I'm not sure what kind of scoring criteria they use for the assessment. Obviously, the math/thinking questions are either right or wrong, since only one answer choice is correct. I do not know how the personality profile is scored or graded.
 
any idea how long it takes to hear anything either way from VX after the interview?
 
It used to be within a week. 6-7 days from the interview you either got the good news (drug test email) or thanks but no thanks email. From what I hear, one of the pilot HR ladies left the company and things are taking a little bit longer than normal.
 
ATP not required and if you have a rec from the sfo base chief pilots brother, your in like flynn.
 
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Fubitool will be here to give you her opinion of Virgin in 3...2...1...
 
Oh. The story I heard was one was interviewed and then afterwards it was discovered the applicant had no ATP and was turned down.
 
That may have been another but there is definitely one who is online. Actually there are two I know of. One has been here a few years now, great guy, the other a new hire and a little tough to get along with. Not knocking either of them just commenting it wasn't a hard and fast rule. Of course that could change as a result of our newest members attitude in the cockpit.

We'll see.

Moving on------
 
Oh ok. In the past, (even back when the mins were 5000TT 1000TPIC) I heard there was a couple guys who made it in with much less than that, and one without an ATP. Could be the same individual you mentioned that has been here a few years.
 
What happens after doing an assessment and then not hearing anything for a long time? Is there a set number of times to retest or a time limit? I didn't notice one but I didn't search very hard either.
 
That's a good question, but I believe if you don't pass then you don't really hear anything for a long time. The ones who pass get an email with a questionaire in it. I've heard if one fails, they have to wait one year to re-apply, but others have stated that when they update online, there is a link to take the test, so they do it again. I suppose if it gives you an option to take the assessment again after updating, then it may be worth doing it again.
 
Flyer1015 said:
There has been lots of hiring that has continued from last year into May this year. After the last aircraft is on property this May, the hiring is suppose to trickle down to a near stop, hiring only for attrition of about 4 to 5 pilots per month.
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I am wondering when the planes start to come again after the last one in May gets on property. I see where they have 60 on order but when do the flood gates open again?
 
From what I've heard, one comes in January, and then rest in Spring (May-ish?). Regular 30 A320s from 2013 to 2016 so about 7 per year, and then 30 NEOs from 2016-2019, again about 7 per year. All of this could change depending on the economy, cost of gas, etc.
 
According to David Cush, we get our last one in May/June time and then the next one won't be until Sept of 13 and it will be the first to have the Sharklets. We will most likely get the Neo's mid 15 if the LeapX engine/flt trials complete early.

More could show up if the gas/economy change. Only time will tell, but should be enough time to mature our routes, make our profit goals and IPO.
:cool:
 
Tomct said:
According to David Cush, we get our last one in May/June time and then the next one won't be until Sept of 13 and it will be the first to have the Sharklets. We will most likely get the Neo's mid 15 if the LeapX engine/flt trials complete early.

More could show up if the gas/economy change. Only time will tell, but should be enough time to mature our routes, make our profit goals and IPO.
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Tomct,

Last pilot call quoted MB saying our last a/c coming in Jan 2013. Then a break until Sept, unless things have changed more recently than the pilot call.

Cheers
 
I did the assessment about two weeks ago and haven't heard a thing. I'm taking it as a "no".

The thing is that I suck at word problems. Always have, they fry my brain. "If jack is 2 years older than jane and she is 5 times younger than Will, what color car does bob drive?" :confused:

The last airline I worked for didn't have word problems, they had visual orientation and physics/motion problems during the interview written as well as ATP questions. You know, stuff that a pilot should be good at. Now those I can do. If they want to sum me up by using word problems than have at it, I guess that's how they shrink the pack. I hope the math wiz with no decision making skills or flight skills does an awesome job for them.

Not bitter, just looking for a different life in aviation.

I'm sure I passed the pych test but then again they would think I was crazy that I would literally take a $100,000 pay cut to work there. :nuts: And that I would never, even at the top of their pay scale, make what I make now. Yeah, I guess that does sound unstable. Plus, if they really are stopping their hiring next month for over a year+ what's the point of sitting at the bottom of that list on reserve. Might give it a go in 2013, or realize that money is more important than happiness.
 
Just heard VX still has a pool of 40 to drain (~ 8 a month) so that is why no interviews for three months or so. We are still short, still need new hires for the foreseeable future (supposedly)
 
bailey3083 said:
SO as the other thread has said VX is taking their normal summer break then resuming interviewing in August?
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That's what I was told by somebody over there.

I also discovered that if you fail the Previsor (which there really is no way of knowing as they don't tell you) you can take it again after 1 year. If you update your application during that one year period you'll get another previsor to take, but even if you pass it, you'll still have to wait until a year from the original date of failure and then take it again. Of course, that was just my experience, YMMV.
 
nethan said:
That's what I was told by somebody over there.

I also discovered that if you fail the Previsor (which there really is no way of knowing as they don't tell you) you can take it again after 1 year. If you update your application during that one year period you'll get another previsor to take, but even if you pass it, you'll still have to wait until a year from the original date of failure and then take it again. Of course, that was just my experience, YMMV.
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I passed the Previsor tested and was contacted in about 48 hours for an interview. Unfortunately my wife had surgery during the interview dates so I had to pass. Now I am just waiting for them to interview again so I can get on the list.
 
Ralph Cramden said:
You would be miserable here, it is for the best that you stay at your high paying job. Best wishes!:rolleyes:
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Don't mind him.....He's at Netjets, and apparently hates it there too... Said he's working on his exit strategy.. apparently Virgin didn't work out for him...

Oh and he hates old people taking his left seat spot...... And since upgrades are too long at Netjets, it is not worth it for anyone to work there if they hope to someday upgrade.
 
BentOver said:
Don't mind him.....He's at Netjets, and apparently hates it there too... Said he's working on his exit strategy.. apparently Virgin didn't work out for him...

Oh and he hates old people taking his left seat spot...... And since upgrades are too long at Netjets, it is not worth it for anyone to work there if they hope to someday upgrade.
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Ha! He is tired of the 7&7 I see. Sorry cldsfr79, this old guy is hogging 'your' left seat spot here at Virgin. Best wishes in your future endeavors.
 

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