USAPA wins appeal!!!!!!

[becket]

No. The court said once a contract is ratified THEN a claim of DFR could unquestionably be allowed into court for a trial. Not before. .

I disagree. The "under paid" part doesn't describe what you're suggesting.

 

[MCDU]

In knots? Hardly. I think the most likely scenario is that you'll never get a new contract with a new proposed SLI, because Parker is going to sell Airways off in pieces to the highest bidders. It's just a shame that the West will suffer along with you.

West suffering? They are working at the highest pay scale and contract they ever had and are flying over 20% of former East routes. (CLT -SFO, PHL- SEA just to name few). They are lucky they merged. Trying to portray Westies as the victim is a joke just like you PFT_128. Trying to justify how a 17 year never furloughed pilot should bid behind a 3 week probation pilot shows how non union you and your ALPA cheerleaders are. There is a reason you did the PFT deal. Greed, just like your fellow ALPA cheerleaders who lost touch with true union principles. Thank god USAPA is founded on true union principles, where DOH matters and your vote counts.

I am happy that idiots like PFT_128 and Dope in an RJ are pulling for the West. Because you are molded out of the same greed as the Mesa Grande crowd that are trying to gain at the expense of more senior East pilot group.

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[charlie2]

This outcome buys us, the east, time which is good for a bunch of reasons. One is if the MDA pilots win their DFR suit against ALPA (I think they will) then an obvious conclusion would be that those pilots were active, not furloughed, US Airways pilots. The list given to Nicolau showed those MDA pilots as furloughed and he stapled them below the most junior west pilot which would make the Nicolau Award flawed wouldn't it? I think the next jury at the next Addington suit would agree and would see USAPA as not failing in DFR but simply correcting a mistake made by ALPA resulting in the Nic award.

 

[Scope out RJ's]

West suffering? They are working at the highest pay scale and contract they ever had and are flying over 20% of former East routes. (CLT -SFO, PHL- SEA just to name few). They are lucky they merged. Trying to portray Westies as the victim is a joke just like you PFT_128. Trying to justify how a 17 year never furloughed pilot should bid behind a 3 week probation pilot shows how non union you and your ALPA cheerleaders are. There is a reason you did the PFT deal. Greed, just like your fellow ALPA cheerleaders who lost touch with true union principles. Thank god USAPA is founded on true union principles, where DOH matters and your vote counts.

I am happy that idiots like PFT_128 and Dope in an RJ are pulling for the West. Because you are molded out of the same greed as the Mesa Grande crowd that are trying to gain at the expense of more senior East pilot group.

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This statement is hysterical....:laugh:
Doosh....The only thing usapa stands for is a re definition of the word "scab."
Let's recap. Both sides agree to binding arbitration. The EAST picks the arbitrator, then, when you don't agree to the arbitration results, circumvent them through throwing out the union. Great tactics.
Good thing for your man love there are still a few 190's hanging around, for now.
Doosh, when is the Gulfstream reunion? I'm sure your man love will be proud to call you a pilot when you get your wings! You go girl!

 

[Crzipilot]

So the TA and the company accepting the NIC. just goes right out the window because USAPA has not DFR'd the West yet? USAPA is free to breech their contractual obligation like a home owner walking away from their mortgage, but you will have legal litigation to respond to. The company is like the bank and does not want to be part of this mess, but will eventually have to act if the 9th sends the mandate to Wake to dismiss and USAPA goes DOH per their CBL's.

P.S.- any updates on the A330 damage from yesterday's hit and run in CLT?

Have you read the T/A??? Does it specify what is involved in the SLI or just that they will accept whatever list the Current Union comes up with, as long as it doesn't increase costs and displacements and such????

The arbitration, AS THE COURT HAS STATED, was an internal Union process, and not abiding by it DOES NOT in itself, Constitute a DFR.

Thank you...

Oh and your idea of fast track, and work already done for a new trial. Dream again.

See this case is dismissed, so everything is thrown out. BOTH sides would have to agree to stipulations allowing information, (depos, statements etc) from the original case to be brought into the new one. So you would have to start from step one, and get all the footwork done over again.

Got a spare 1.8 million around???

Oh yeah... Were did the Army of Leonadis Website disappear to? That was a kinda quick retreat....

 

[Crzipilot]

The only thing is certain, is moving forward the west pilots can agree to be involved or not. Their choice. Get into good standing and work to you have your concerns addressed.....

 

[Crzipilot]

Oh, and all the alpa cheerleaders.....might as well butt out. As obviously you were wrong........

 

[eaglesview]

In knots? Hardly. I think the most likely scenario is that you'll never get a new contract with a new proposed SLI, because Parker is going to sell Airways off in pieces to the highest bidders. It's just a shame that the West will suffer along with you.

If this scenario is true the west will be hurt the most. Popular or not the money is in the East. Europe, The Carribean, PHL NYC DCA vs PHX. A potential buyer will look East.

 

[Noserider76]

Their choice. Get into good standing and work to you have your concerns addressed.....

Or instead of working with a group, formed specifically to F them after an agreed upon arbitration didn't go the way the majority hoped, they could just wait until the pieces of the mess you created get picked up by someone else. Of course, then you'll all be at the mercy of the ones picking up the pieces.

 

[Turtle21]

In knots? Hardly.

When did you become in favor of voting? Thou dost protest allegiance to voting too much.

 

[weasel_lips]

Congrats to USAPA for a job well done!

 

[Sandhawk]

"He who laughs last, laughs best"....and it ain't over B!tches (that's you, Eastwipes).

:laugh:

 

[abefly]

Have you read the T/A??? Does it specify what is involved in the SLI or just that they will accept whatever list the Current Union comes up with, as long as it doesn't increase costs and displacements and such????

The arbitration, AS THE COURT HAS STATED, was an internal Union process, and not abiding by it DOES NOT in itself, Constitute a DFR.

Thank you...

Oh and your idea of fast track, and work already done for a new trial. Dream again.

See this case is dismissed, so everything is thrown out. BOTH sides would have to agree to stipulations allowing information, (depos, statements etc) from the original case to be brought into the new one. So you would have to start from step one, and get all the footwork done over again.

Got a spare 1.8 million around???

Oh yeah... Were did the Army of Leonadis Website disappear to? That was a kinda quick retreat....

The second trial will be much faster. It took the jury 5 minutes to decide in this trial. They only waited until the next day to get another day off work.

All this did was buy time. You and everyone knows it. If anything this will bring the Nic upon you even sooner. The second trial will be cheaper, all the discovery is complete. All we need is the one final piece of the puzzle. Your DOH list to get voted in.

I predict a TA withinin 6 months voted in by the "Majority." Immediately followed by a temporary injunction to prevent the list from being implemented. But the rest of the contract will continue. Then after we win the case the Nic will be the list and the east will have gotten what they wanted. All the upgrades. I have a fridge full of beer and nothing but time. So enjoy the "victory" of this battle CRZ. But the war is far from over!

 

[charlie2]

I bet we don't have a TA until June of 2011. Parker is living the dream.

 

[Jim]

"While Friday's decision said the America West pilot claim wasn't yet "ripe" to be decided, it also said their claim would be "unquestionably ripe ... once a contract is ratified." The threat of that should force the union "to bargain in good faith pursuant to its (duty for fair representation), with the interest of all members" in mind, the judges wrote."

If the USAPA scum continue on their present course, they will fail miserably. The appeal Judges have warned them and pissed off Judges make bad enemies. It's only a matter of time, the AWA guys just need to be patient a little while longer.