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Metrojet -

If the East MEC hadn't pulled out of joint negotiations in 2007 we could've avoided all of this and had a new contract to boot.

But you're right, if we'd acceded to your extortion we'd have saved on legal fees. I have no regrets.
 
TWA Dude said:
Metrojet -

If the East MEC hadn't pulled out of joint negotiations in 2007 we could've avoided all of this and had a new contract to boot.

But you're right, if we'd acceded to your extortion we'd have saved on legal fees. I have no regrets.
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TWA -

In all due respect - I always thought extortion was a threat you make to another party that their will be serious repercussions if you don't do what they ask - Weren't you guys the PLAINTIFF'S? The East didn't sue the West. The East just had a simple majority when we were allowed to vote on a new bargaining agent.

But getting back to the future - I can only speak for myself - but I am ready to fight for a new contract that is beneficial to both the former East and former West

Metrojet
 
TWA you keep mentioning injunction. Yes the injunction is lifted. BECAUSE the case is dismissed, Thrown out. West told to come back if and when there is a true DFR. At this point in time, there is not one.

Now when something changes, all the sides look at it, look at USAPAs actions, and then they can decide if there is DFR involved. If so, feel free to sue again. But uhmmm....you do understand you start at the beginning. Not the end. Don't think an Injunction is easily put in place instantaneously....
 
TWA,

How much do you currently owe your lawyers??? Since there will be no legal fees and damages trial?????
 
The only decision that came down was the case was dismissed. Were there more instructions???

I believe when a case is dismissed, it's over, end of story.

there wasn't any contingencies put on the decision of. Well we aren't going to rule on this now...but USAPA, you can't use DOH.

sure there were opinions, but hey, how many of those are on FI?

Dismissed means, it's done, over with. Come back when something happens and we will start at square one. New jury? Different Judge? Different District? Different lawyers????? Tooo many variables to predict an outcome.

Speaking of outcomes, what's is the west's record of predictions???? At least 0-2????

Unable to get enough Votes for USAPA......Fail...
9th slam dunk....Fail...
 
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Metrojet said:
In all due respect - I always thought extortion was a threat you make to another party that their will be serious repercussions if you don't do what they ask - Weren't you guys the PLAINTIFF'S?
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The East extorted the West to give concessions by threatening to dump ALPA in the hopes of getting around the arbitration. The West didn't give in and the DFR suit was the result. The best defense is a good offense.
But getting back to the future - I can only speak for myself - but I am ready to fight for a new contract that is beneficial to both the former East and former West
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Sounds good. But I'm sure you're aware that reordering the seniority list isn't good for the West.
 
Crzipilot said:
Now when something changes, all the sides look at it, look at USAPAs actions, and then they can decide if there is DFR involved. If so, feel free to sue again. But uhmmm....you do understand you start at the beginning. Not the end.
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Yes.
Don't think an Injunction is easily put in place instantaneously....
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How long did it take the first time? Something like three months IIRC. That's quick enough.
 
From the footnotes to the decision.

USAPA’s bargaining
position leaves the Airline to decide between
a lack of a single CBA and an unlawful single CBA
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3 We do not address the thorny question of the extent to which the Nicolau Award is binding on USAPA. We note, as the district court recognized, that USAPA is at least as free to abandon the Nicolau Award as was its predecessor, ALPA. The dissent appears implicitly to assume that the Nicolau Award, the product of the internal rules and processes of ALPA, is binding on USAPA. See Diss op. at 8021-22.
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So we are pretty much back where we started.
 
Awsome:
So final and binding only means binding when it works in your favor!
:uzi:USAPA, bringing new definition to the word Sc__!
 
Like previous posts state, this just means the suit should come after the contract. I don't agree and I'm not surprised there was disention on the panel. The obvious harm was the furloughing of West pilots out of seniority. Just means the trigger was pulled too early coming out of the holster. There are plenty of bullets left in the gun. If you're a low seniority West pilot you should have left a long time ago, furlough or not.
 
TWA Dude said:
Could've had a new CBA back in 2007.
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I disagree. Too many east pilots not willing to vote yes on ANY contract that included the nic. Me included. I think if the former union was still on the property we would still be voting down contracts.
 
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<---- Beginning to think TWA is one of the 1%ers.........

he questions the statement that if you jr AWest you shoulda been gone long ago anyways. Why should the JR leave when they have a chance for such stellar movement when the NIC gets instituted....
 

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