USAPA wins appeal!!!!!!

[charlie2]

No chirping on what the balanced owed is on that legal representation??? I'm sure you'll have a number of lawyers wanting to help out on a retrial a number of years from now, especially if you have an open bill with the original law firm....

The west had asked Wake to order us to pay $1.8m for their legal fees.

 

[LearLove]

from my email:

"USAPA NEWS FLASH
The Ninth Circuit has ruled in USAPA’s favor in the Addington case on ripeness grounds. The case has been remanded to Judge Wake with instructions to dismiss the case. The ruling is being reviewed by Legal now; more information will follow."

anyone know what "ripeness grounds" means?

 

[charlie2]

from my email:

"USAPA NEWS FLASH
The Ninth Circuit has ruled in USAPA’s favor in the Addington case on ripeness grounds. The case has been remanded to Judge Wake with instructions to dismiss the case. The ruling is being reviewed by Legal now; more information will follow."

anyone know what "ripeness grounds" means?

It was to early to sue.

 

[Crzipilot]

Meaning, how can you sue with nothing has happened to hurt you. Your predicting what will happen in the future, and want to be compensated for it now, before that train crashes into your car.

I guess they figured the judges had the same crystal ball they've been using...

Now I would imagine if a CBA is voted in, including a DOH list. (what maybe in 2-3 years) Then they MIGHT have a case for the seniority not being based on NIC....

then they will probably have to wait another 1-2 years to get the case in front of a judge, then another 6 months to a year to get a ruling.

Then of course another 6 months or so for an appeal from whichever side loses.

So I guess you might see another lawsuit in 4-5 years. This of course if the Westies can come up with another 1.8 million on top of the 1.8 million they already owe their lawyer....

 

[WSurf]

Sure surf, with a 30yr fence between aircraft and bases...

heheheheh

 

[Crzipilot]

heheheheh

Seriously there needs to be found a way to get the WO's onto the seniority list and fold the dash and rj flying onto the list.

give you guys DOH with maybe some sort of slotting to bid onto bigger equipment or something....I dunno...... Unfortunately due to the bad blood in previous attempts, I don't think there are enough level heads on both sides to get such a venture done....

 

[doh]

No chirping on what the balanced owed is on that legal representation??? I'm sure you'll have a number of lawyers wanting to help out on a retrial a number of years from now, especially if you have an open bill with the original law firm....

Do you really believe that because one group of sharks went hungry that another group of sharks won't hit that nice fat seal when it swims by? My guess is that those lawyers will line right back up to sue. That way they can pad the billable hours and get back everything they aren't getting today. And they will be back in court just as soon as a DOH list is implemented. The DFR is only delayed. The arbitration award remains legally binding.

 

[Crzipilot]

DOH,

Uhmmm....they might, they might not, it depends on how much NOT getting paid financially hurts their firm. Lawyers aren't charity cases and that's a pretty big nut to be gambling on.

True, your guess is there's enough lawyers out there hungry that someone will pick the case up, fair enough, but exactly how good will that next ambulance chaser be?

By your assertion, are you stating that the West's law firm padded their hours, in such case misrepresenting to the courts what their actual billable hours were??? Do you have knowledge of this?

Either way, the sooner you guys accept what has transpired in the last few hours, the sooner you will be at peace.....

 

[TWA Dude]

Easties: understand what this means. The injunction is lifted so USAPA is free to negotiate whatever list it likes, but, if it again violates the DFR an injunction will stop it. So in effect we're back to were we were when USAPA won its election. Enjoy your victory.

 

[get2flyin]

Meaning, how can you sue with nothing has happened to hurt you. Your predicting what will happen in the future, and want to be compensated for it now, before that train crashes into your car.

I guess they figured the judges had the same crystal ball they've been using...

Now I would imagine if a CBA is voted in, including a DOH list. (what maybe in 2-3 years) Then they MIGHT have a case for the seniority not being based on NIC....

then they will probably have to wait another 1-2 years to get the case in front of a judge, then another 6 months to a year to get a ruling.

Then of course another 6 months or so for an appeal from whichever side loses.

So I guess you might see another lawsuit in 4-5 years. This of course if the Westies can come up with another 1.8 million on top of the 1.8 million they already owe their lawyer....

You're right, Crazi. Your starving former East furloughs should be able to feast on the careers of the America West pilots. In fact, I think you should ask USAPA to contractually allow East pilots to raid the money West pilots set aside for their kid's college fund. Hey, I'm sure you were planning on your kid going to Harvard but didn't bother to put any money aside. Never mind the fact that by parroting Daddy's ethics they'd be lucky to get into the local community college. It's all about entitlement. Should you be entitled to have my ATM PIN as well?

Don't worry about the money. In a battle for integrity, each West pilot is willing to dig deeply into his pockets to support the group of ALL West pilots. I'm sure this is a foreign concept to you but watch closely. You might actually learn something....or not.