Crzipilot
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Somebody please explain something here. Taking a step back and looking at this whole process.
WE (USAPA) approached the company for this MOU. What exactly do we get from this MOU and what do we loose?
1. Seems we get the “seat at the table” (though reading further wouldn’t we have one anyways?)
2. We get pay parity at POR (which we might be able to get anyways) .
3. 10k signing bonus
4. No furlough
5. Equal increase or decrease of block time, with no floor on the bottom
6. Some pay protection for displacement to 190.
7. Higher pay protection on 190 than what is in APA term sheet. But ends when you can hold higher paying position at any base in the system.
8. GIVE UP COC, MIN BLOCK TIME, MIN FLEET, HUGE PARTS OF SCOPE
9. Per the APA term sheet, code share with Alaska and Hawaiian, in addition to domestic code share with anyone up to 4% of our domestic ASM’s.
10. Essentially this MOU takes the place of the transition agreement they are obligated to negotiate anyways.
Now without the MOU what happens?
1. Parker gets AMR
2. At POR, APA has their term sheet modifying THEIR contract.
3. Within 60 days of POR a TRANSITION agreement is negotiated.
4. At time LCC meets single carrier status APA will file for such within 6 months.
5. At granting of single carrier status APA (or surviving union, assuming APA) will negotiate a JCBA within 90 days. If not completed within 90 days it will go to arbitration, with the arbitrators required to adhere to the cost sections of the APA term sheet.
So in essence Mr. Glass saw an opportunity to get a lot from us, with a shortened time frame and deadline attached to it. US would have gotten major concessions from us, for almost no cost to them. They don’t NEED the MOU as they already have a road map laid out with the APA term sheet. They have already figured what the cost of traveling that road will be, and have found it acceptable. With the MOU, as Parker has stated, it will be a lot easier and cheaper without that pesky COC language in there (not to mention the gutting of our scope and other items without so much as a wimper from us)
They very well knew of the discourse regarding the MOU and could have delayed the NDA by a few days to iron out details. Instead they are rolling the dice figuring they have the 50+1 voted by 9/21. Essentially saying, we have you, one way or the other. Easier with the MOU and easier road to greater profits. A little bit longer road and higher costs without the MOU.
With or Without the MOU we will most likely be steamrolled by what the APA interests are, through JCBA process, BUT WITHOUT the MOU we at least have items to trade for better language and protections of some of our interests starting with the negotiation of the transition agreement.
So someone explain why we should not panic, step back, and see the process through?
WE (USAPA) approached the company for this MOU. What exactly do we get from this MOU and what do we loose?
1. Seems we get the “seat at the table” (though reading further wouldn’t we have one anyways?)
2. We get pay parity at POR (which we might be able to get anyways) .
3. 10k signing bonus
4. No furlough
5. Equal increase or decrease of block time, with no floor on the bottom
6. Some pay protection for displacement to 190.
7. Higher pay protection on 190 than what is in APA term sheet. But ends when you can hold higher paying position at any base in the system.
8. GIVE UP COC, MIN BLOCK TIME, MIN FLEET, HUGE PARTS OF SCOPE
9. Per the APA term sheet, code share with Alaska and Hawaiian, in addition to domestic code share with anyone up to 4% of our domestic ASM’s.
10. Essentially this MOU takes the place of the transition agreement they are obligated to negotiate anyways.
Now without the MOU what happens?
1. Parker gets AMR
2. At POR, APA has their term sheet modifying THEIR contract.
3. Within 60 days of POR a TRANSITION agreement is negotiated.
4. At time LCC meets single carrier status APA will file for such within 6 months.
5. At granting of single carrier status APA (or surviving union, assuming APA) will negotiate a JCBA within 90 days. If not completed within 90 days it will go to arbitration, with the arbitrators required to adhere to the cost sections of the APA term sheet.
So in essence Mr. Glass saw an opportunity to get a lot from us, with a shortened time frame and deadline attached to it. US would have gotten major concessions from us, for almost no cost to them. They don’t NEED the MOU as they already have a road map laid out with the APA term sheet. They have already figured what the cost of traveling that road will be, and have found it acceptable. With the MOU, as Parker has stated, it will be a lot easier and cheaper without that pesky COC language in there (not to mention the gutting of our scope and other items without so much as a wimper from us)
They very well knew of the discourse regarding the MOU and could have delayed the NDA by a few days to iron out details. Instead they are rolling the dice figuring they have the 50+1 voted by 9/21. Essentially saying, we have you, one way or the other. Easier with the MOU and easier road to greater profits. A little bit longer road and higher costs without the MOU.
With or Without the MOU we will most likely be steamrolled by what the APA interests are, through JCBA process, BUT WITHOUT the MOU we at least have items to trade for better language and protections of some of our interests starting with the negotiation of the transition agreement.
So someone explain why we should not panic, step back, and see the process through?
