USAPA / US Airways MOU

[Crzipilot]

Are there hard numbers as far as pay from this MOU? Does anyone have an pay rates or a % in wage increases?

18-28%

330 size 216 / 146

757 185 / 126

AB320 172 / 117

190 116 / 79

 

[Bringupthebird]

But we, you and me and the rest have a vote. I don't know yet which way I'm going to vote. Initially I thought no but I want to go to road shows and ask more questions.

YES= Lousy MOU but more money and some guarantees
NO= Emotional benefit, eventual lousy MOU provisions, no money or guarantees

 

[Saabslime]

YES= Lousy MOU but more money and some guarantees
NO= Emotional benefit, eventual lousy MOU provisions, no money or guarantees

Guarantees? The language in this MOU has loopholes big enough to drive a Mac truck through. Do you really think when it comes to interpretation of that language that management won't bend us over?

The only thing this MOU does is give Parker the very things he's been denied by past court/arbitration rulings which have been to our advantage.

 

[Bringupthebird]

Guarantees? The language in this MOU has loopholes big enough to drive a Mac truck through. Do you really think when it comes to interpretation of that language that management won't bend us over?

Normally I'd say that's what you have a union for, but in this case the reckless behavior of the union lead directly to such an MOU. The protections provided in the court/arbitration rulings will go away as soon as the APA negotiates a joint contract, so I wouldn't make any YES/NO decisions based on trying to retain the status quo.

Also, there is little reason for the company to have anything other than a "take-it-or-leave-it" posture. Since there is no real alternative (courtesy of Cleary) I'll vote YES.

 

[cbrown1]

So American found creditors to put up 2 billion dollars so they can exit bankruptcy alone and can have more leverage in a possible merger. That mean Horton stays in control?

I can't imagine at this point the US Air/American merger NOT happening.

 

[Turtle21]

Normally I'd say that's what you have a union for, but in this case the reckless behavior of the union lead directly to such an MOU. The protections provided in the court/arbitration rulings will go away as soon as the APA negotiates a joint contract, so I wouldn't make any YES/NO decisions based on trying to retain the status quo.

Also, there is little reason for the company to have anything other than a "take-it-or-leave-it" posture. Since there is no real alternative (courtesy of Cleary) I'll vote YES.

You don't usually appear to be a quitter.

 

[Bringupthebird]

You don't usually appear to be a quitter.

What's next, call me "Yellow"? Threaten to have your dad come punch my dad in the nose? Wake up and smell the injunction and vote YES.

 

[MCDU]

If i were a usair pilot, i would vote mo.


M

 

[charlie2]

If i were a usair pilot, i would vote mo.


M

So we are going to have three choices on the ballot? Yes No and Mo? Sorry MCDU I couldn't resist!

 

[charlie2]

What's next, call me "Yellow"? Threaten to have your dad come punch my dad in the nose? Wake up and smell the injunction and vote YES.

Gentlemen! You can't fight in here this is the war room.