USAPA Trial

[Crzipilot]

Does it matter the reason??? It's a court case, with lawyers looking for whatever advantage. It seems the west lawyers screwed up with the subpoenas, not just bradford's but guess I read a few others. So ask your lawyers on the west why they aren't testifying.

I'm sure if you were being sued for something, you would voluntarily take the stand even if your lawyers advised you it wouldnt' be in your best interest?

Oh I forgot, all the west pilots are little cherubs that never do anything wrong or try anything to put the advantage to themselves. I forgot what saints you guys are.....

 

[Raoul Duke]

The west's attorneys have nothing to do with it. Unless you are an individually named party to the lawsuit or an officer of an organization that is party to a lawsuit, you can't be subpoened to testify at a trial out of state. In this case Bradford and his band of merry pranksters engineered an election just before the trial so he would not be an officer. It blew up in thier face because the Judge ruled that if he does not testify live the jury will be instructed to presume that the testimony would be harmful to USAPA. It does not get much better than that for the west's attorneys.

 

[BeCareful!]

Well then yea!

Hey, are you guys classy enough to invite us to your victory party?

 

[Turtle21]

The west's attorneys have nothing to do with it. Unless you are an individually named party to the lawsuit or an officer of an organization that is party to a lawsuit, you can't be subpoened to testify at a trial out of state. In this case Bradford and his band of merry pranksters engineered an election just before the trial so he would not be an officer. It blew up in thier face because the Judge ruled that if he does not testify live the jury will be instructed to presume that the testimony would be harmful to USAPA. It does not get much better than that for the west's attorneys.

Engineered an election? Can't you think and read for yourself, dude?

The election occurred as a requirement of the CB&L that was written long ago before any talk of lawsuits.

 

[Turtle21]

Why doesn't Bradford or any of the other founding fathers of USAPA want to take the stand? They laid the cornerstone for the bedrock of union principles, DOH, and should be willing to defend that! Could it be that if they are exposed to cross examination, they could let out their dirty little secrets?

Yeah, they fly black helicopters in their free time and secretly create crop circles too.

 

[Crzipilot]

Well you see, it must have been a surprise by the west pilots, because they refuse to join or participate in their union. Yes the legally elected representatives of their CBA. So I guess if your not a member, you don't get updates, or told what's going on. I would imagine they wouldn't know what was going on...........blechhh

 

[Carl S.]

But what does Bradford have to hide? He created USAPA for the good of all 5400 LCC pilots and has nothing to hide. If I was pure, I would take the stand with no hesitation. Why is council saying to avoid the stand?

 

[Raoul Duke]

Engineered an election? Can't you think and read for yourself, dude?

The election occurred as a requirement of the CB&L that was written long ago before any talk of lawsuits.

If it was not engineered why did they exclude the individual from the west who was running for office?

 

[Turtle21]

If it was not engineered why did they exclude the individual from the west who was running for office?

If it was purple, how come they never delivered the pizza?:cartman:

 

[Sandhawk]

If it was not engineered why did they exclude the individual from the west who was running for office?

Because they didn't like the awesome Goat Video that he produced!!!

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[BeCareful!]

If it was not engineered why did they exclude the individual from the west who was running for office?

I think it was because he said up front that he would not uphold the constitution and bylaws. They then decided he had to be allowed to run, so thus the re-run.

 

[TWA Dude]

I think it was because he said up front that he would not uphold the constitution and bylaws. They then decided he had to be allowed to run, so thus the re-run.

This is true. USAPA had no problem accepting his (and mine) applications for membership so it was then quite improper to turn around and say you can be a member yet not run for office.

No West pilot supports the DOH part of the C&BLs and never shall. Just like I wrote before the Nicolau award: if we should merge with another airline I support the concept of binding arbitration come what may.

 

[BeCareful!]

Just like I wrote before the Nicolau award: if we should merge with another airline I support the concept of binding arbitration come what may.

Well then by God, if there's ever an election for a new son of god and you're running against Jesus Christ you'll get my vote, you pillar of integrity, you.

 

[Carl S.]

I thought USAPA was transparent. No inside deals, no FPL w*************************, real voting on contracts and side letters and new blood in office, not the same ALPA hacks that had the old AAA looking like the Hatfield/McCoys when it came to domicile reps. Bradford(really Cleary) had a vision to be as pure as the Virgin Mary! Tell me it ain't so!

 

[PHXFLYR]

Parella Cleary et al get FPL paid out at 120percent of their normal line guarentee. This from a "union" who had until recently no FPL loss wriiten in their C&b/l's No wonder why our guy wants to run for President ! Seems like the honey currently handling greviences found a loop hole to exploit so she can feather her own nest at your expense. When will you easties ever learn....

PHXFLYR

Proud non-member