USAPA Trial

[TWA Dude]

Ah, yes, more wisdom from United's own USAPA apologist.

 

[FDJ2]

"USAPA officials, who, like those on the America West side, declined to comment in advance of the trial, have maintained from the start that the arbitrator's decision was never final or binding and was just a proposal."

You've got to be kidding me, right?

 

[michael707767]

"USAPA officials, who, like those on the America West side, declined to comment in advance of the trial, have maintained from the start that the arbitrator's decision was never final or binding and was just a proposal."

You've got to be kidding me, right?

They think if they say it enough, it will be true.

 

[PHXFLYR]

"USAPA officials, who, like those on the America West side, declined to comment in advance of the trial, have maintained from the start that the arbitrator's decision was never final or binding and was just a proposal."

You've got to be kidding me, right?

Nope. Apparently their legal team honestly thinks seniority "lives in the contract and is negotiable like crewmeals " And yes. That was an exact quote.


PHXFLYR

 

[PHXFLYR]

Well now, that's productive.

Whassamatta ???? Need a payraise???


PHXFLYR

Proud non-member

 

[Colonel Savage]

Whassamatta ???? Need a payraise???

Ahem, "pay restoration"....

 

[Cowboy75]

"USAPA officials, who, like those on the America West side, declined to comment in advance of the trial, have maintained from the start that the arbitrator's decision was never final or binding and was just a proposal."

You've got to be kidding me, right?

It all depended on the outcome. It was only a proposal when they did not agree with the decision.

There you have it, no integrity.

 

[PHXFLYR]

It all depended on the outcome. It was only a proposal when they did not agree with the decision.

There you have it, no integrity.

You can say that again.


PHXFLYR

 

[FDJ2]

Nope. Apparently their legal team honestly thinks seniority "lives in the contract and is negotiable like crewmeals " And yes. That was an exact quote.


PHXFLYR

Unbelievable. I don't doubt you one second, I just find it incredible that they would proffer the idea in court that a final and binding seniority award is a proposal subject to negotiations.

 

[Raoul Duke]

My understanding is that the Judge made it perfectly clear that he does not buy in to that thinking. USAPA's attorneys got schooled in the arbitration and do not seem to have gotten any smarter. The latest I heard is that they fought very hard to prevent Bradford from having to testify. They were unseccessful and Bradford was ordered to appear in Phoenix.

 

[Flybywire44]

Are the East pilots not happy? They only have to hold out a couple more years and then US Air will either fold or all the senior guys will retire.

 

[BeCareful!]

USAPA's attorneys got schooled in the arbitration and do not seem to have gotten any smarter. .

Well now there's a hard hitting fact.

What arbitration are you referring to?

 

[Crzipilot]

Obviously he's one that has followed all the events very very closely....NOT. Anyways, what about 2 weeks, and there should be more insight as to what's gonna happen to this train wreck...

 

[d.fitz]

What arbitration are you referring to?

I believe he is referring to the legally binding arbitration that you guys agreed you would abide by (because you didn't like the initial agreement with the west and, stupidly didn't realize that the arbitrator would conclude something worse for you).

But, if you like, feel free to act like you don't know what he is referring to...

 

[BeCareful!]

I believe he is referring to the legally binding arbitration that you guys agreed you would abide by (because you didn't like the initial agreement with the west and, stupidly didn't realize that the arbitrator would conclude something worse for you).

But, if you like, feel free to act like you don't know what he is referring to...

Gosh, there was a strongly worded remark. So, I guess I'll ask you: were USAPA attorneys involved in that arbitration?

 

[LearLove]

outside of this trial stuff:

for east and west guys please member that there is only 2 days left to (re)vote for USAPA pres - more importantly and the topic of this post is that the same vote includes a vote to extend furlough health coverage to the west guys. Regardless of where you stand please help your fellow pilot by voting yes on this issue.

 

[TWA Dude]

So, I guess I'll ask you: were USAPA attorneys involved in that arbitration?

That's a strange question given the obvious incompetence of USAPA's current legal counsel. Do you think Mr. Seham would've gotten you a better decision from Mr. Nicolau?

 

[BeCareful!]

outside of this trial stuff:

for east and west guys please member that there is only 2 days left to (re)vote for USAPA pres - more importantly and the topic of this post is that the same vote includes a vote to extend furlough health coverage to the west guys. Regardless of where you stand please help your fellow pilot by voting yes on this issue.

I thought polls were open until May 12th. That's what it says on the website.

 

[LearLove]

I thought polls were open until May 12th. That's what it says on the website.

yes your are right, for some reason I was thinking the 30th. Anyway, 2 weeks left then.

Sorry

 

[Raoul Duke]

So a friend attended the trial today (jury selection and pre-trial motions). The Judge told USAPA's attorneys that Bradford will not be compelled to testify but if he (and USAPA) chose not to have him testify the Jury will be instructed that they can infer that his testimony would be harmful to USAPA.