USAPA Trial

[Flybywire44]

Are the East pilots not happy? They only have to hold out a couple more years and then US Air will either fold or all the senior guys will retire.

 

[BeCareful!]

USAPA's attorneys got schooled in the arbitration and do not seem to have gotten any smarter. .

Well now there's a hard hitting fact.

What arbitration are you referring to?

 

[Crzipilot]

Obviously he's one that has followed all the events very very closely....NOT. Anyways, what about 2 weeks, and there should be more insight as to what's gonna happen to this train wreck...

 

[d.fitz]

What arbitration are you referring to?

I believe he is referring to the legally binding arbitration that you guys agreed you would abide by (because you didn't like the initial agreement with the west and, stupidly didn't realize that the arbitrator would conclude something worse for you).

But, if you like, feel free to act like you don't know what he is referring to...

 

[BeCareful!]

I believe he is referring to the legally binding arbitration that you guys agreed you would abide by (because you didn't like the initial agreement with the west and, stupidly didn't realize that the arbitrator would conclude something worse for you).

But, if you like, feel free to act like you don't know what he is referring to...

Gosh, there was a strongly worded remark. So, I guess I'll ask you: were USAPA attorneys involved in that arbitration?

 

[LearLove]

outside of this trial stuff:

for east and west guys please member that there is only 2 days left to (re)vote for USAPA pres - more importantly and the topic of this post is that the same vote includes a vote to extend furlough health coverage to the west guys. Regardless of where you stand please help your fellow pilot by voting yes on this issue.

 

[TWA Dude]

So, I guess I'll ask you: were USAPA attorneys involved in that arbitration?

That's a strange question given the obvious incompetence of USAPA's current legal counsel. Do you think Mr. Seham would've gotten you a better decision from Mr. Nicolau?

 

[BeCareful!]

outside of this trial stuff:

for east and west guys please member that there is only 2 days left to (re)vote for USAPA pres - more importantly and the topic of this post is that the same vote includes a vote to extend furlough health coverage to the west guys. Regardless of where you stand please help your fellow pilot by voting yes on this issue.

I thought polls were open until May 12th. That's what it says on the website.

 

[LearLove]

I thought polls were open until May 12th. That's what it says on the website.

yes your are right, for some reason I was thinking the 30th. Anyway, 2 weeks left then.

Sorry

 

[Raoul Duke]

So a friend attended the trial today (jury selection and pre-trial motions). The Judge told USAPA's attorneys that Bradford will not be compelled to testify but if he (and USAPA) chose not to have him testify the Jury will be instructed that they can infer that his testimony would be harmful to USAPA.

 

[Cowboy75]

What arbitration are you referring to?

Arbitrator stands by controversial list
Dawn Gilbertson - Apr. 26, 2009
The Arizona Republic
His name is a household name, often used in vain, in the pilot ranks at US Airways.George Nicolau, an 84-year-old New York attorney best known for his longtime role as Major League Baseball's arbitrator, is the federal arbitrator who two years ago issued the merged seniority list that bitterly divided the 5,000 pilots of the former America West Airlines and the old US Airways. The list is the unofficial centerpiece of a trial that begins in federal court in Phoenix Tuesday, pitting the two pilot groups against each other four years after the merger was announced. Nicolau won't be there and says he doesn't even know what the lawsuit is about.But he says he does know this: The list was fair. In the decision, he rejected US Airways pilots' requests for a seniority system based on date of hire, which would have strongly favored them given America West's younger age. He also weighed the career expectations of both sides and concluded that the financial future of US Airways was "not comparable to or as bright as that of America West" at the time of the merger.He came up with a blended seniority list that put several hundred of US Airways' most senior pilots, those flying the prized international flights, at the top and ranked the rest according to a ratio based on their status at the time of the merger. US Airways pilots on furlough at the time of the merger were put at the bottom, a major sore point. One of two pilots from outside America West/US Airways on the panel issued a dissenting opinion on that point but otherwise praised Nicolau's rationale.
"I still believe it's the right one," Nicolau said of the list.He was the only voting member of a three-member Air Line Pilots Association arbitration board that heard the case in late 2006. Nicolau said there were plenty of "fusses" about some of his Major League Baseball decisions, but none lingered as long as the US Airways decision.

 

[PHXFLYR]

Gosh, there was a strongly worded remark. So, I guess I'll ask you: were USAPA attorneys involved in that arbitration?

Nope. But their "esteemed client" inherited them. And that's all that matters, as you will soon find out a few weeks from now.

PHXFLYR

Proud non-member

 

[PHXFLYR]

Unbelievable. I don't doubt you one second, I just find it incredible that they would proffer the idea in court that a final and binding seniority award is a proposal subject to negotiations.

Thanks....so do we


PHXFLYR

 

[Carl S.]

Why doesn't Bradford or any of the other founding fathers of USAPA want to take the stand? They laid the cornerstone for the bedrock of union principles, DOH, and should be willing to defend that! Could it be that if they are exposed to cross examination, they could let out their dirty little secrets?

 

[PHXFLYR]

(spoken with an Irish brough )

"hmmmm....could be Clancey...could be. "

PHXFLYR