USAPA sues some America West Pilots

[Sig]

it is a cancer.[/color]

Yes. That is the problem.

In other news, a crazed Aztec declared all is well after a total lunar eclipse. Thank god he proved a sundial makes the sun move across the sky, in cahoots with a shadow.

Coming up next on the PBS Special, "Causality..."

You turds probably misread the last word of the above sentence!

 

[eaglesview]

Yes. That is the problem.

In other news, a crazed Aztec declared all is well after a total lunar eclipse. Thank god he proved a sundial makes the sun move across the sky, in cahoots with a shadow.

Coming up next on the PBS Special, "Causality..."

You turds probably misread the last word of the above sentence!

Creative post. I like it.

 

[eaglesview]

Yes. That is the problem.

In other news, a crazed Aztec declared all is well after a total lunar eclipse. Thank god he proved a sundial makes the sun move across the sky, in cahoots with a shadow.

Coming up next on the PBS Special, "Causality..."

You turds probably misread the last word of the above sentence!

Creative post. I like it.

 

[waveflyer]

so do i. well said.
(!)

 

[Carl S.]

Parker has the list. When USCABA tries to make a move on it in the next few weeks, the games will begin! Last time I checked, no bill from USCABA, so no money from out West(First 60 days free per NMB) then the certified letter games begin!

 

[Guppiedriver]

Reality, Parker has to make nice with a new union if he ever wants to make progress at USAir. There will never be peace with the nic, it is a cancer. Also with the nic, since there will be constant termoil, there will not be a third party merger, can't be done. No I am not a USAir pilot.

Parker doesn't have to do sh!t with UCRAPA. He's perfectly happy with those crybabies working under LOA 93 and fighting us.

...and there will be peace with DOH? You don't think there will be constant turmoil with DOH? The Nic award is not the cancer.

...but let me guess, you slept in a Holiday Inn Express last night.

 

[Browntothebone]

Is PCL the Chinese female?

She's Japanese and works for UPS now!

 

[cactusboy53]

Fine lets say you are 100% correct and a huge number of East pilots want to come West. FENCE THEM OUT! usapa already stated the West could "name their fences"
Bottom line is, all i hear is rhetoric about how the East is stealing jobs, but the West is not willing to do the one thing that would stop it. Funny the East is willing. So who really wants who's jobs?

Dude;
We were willing and interested in negotiating a list (2 years ago!). I won't bore you with the SAME story that has been told OVER and OVER. The negotiations are done, the arbitration is done and we tire of this little game. Arbitrator Nicolau's findings were researched, well founded and are complete.

The West pilot's interests are not served by attempts to re-negotiate a FINAL and BINDING award, and we find nothing funny about the East's wishing to return to this completed phase.

 

[pilotss]

YAWN

Zzzzz.

 

[MELVIS]

I now feel dumber having read all 21 pages. I will say this, sueing a group you want to join your union is kind of "reverse recruiting." All of the stuff going on with oil, possible furloughs and our great new "union" pulls this. Where are the updates for our new contract? What is USAPA doing to mitigate furloughs? How is USAPA building leverage with the company? How is USAPA fostering unity? Where's my beer?

 

[eaglesview]

Parker doesn't have to do sh!t with UCRAPA. He's perfectly happy with those crybabies working under LOA 93 and fighting us.

...and there will be peace with DOH? You don't think there will be constant turmoil with DOH? The Nic award is not the cancer.

...but let me guess, you slept in a Holiday Inn Express last night.

No Holiday in express for me, UAL doesn't go that fancy for crews, we are to broke. Time will tell what happens. Parker merged these two airlines for a reason so to assume he is "happy" to keep things the way they are is probably not correct.

 

[Tweaker]

Yes, we are impostors. We are actually Gulfstream B-1900 drivers. PFT_128 use to swing gear for me til he washed out. PFT_128 could not land the B-1900, so he was not accepted for employment after his training contract of 30000.- expired. He weights over 250 lbs. and is 5ft 6 inches. He loves cuban sandwiches and diet coke.

Your wish is my command, MCDU.
The only thing that makes me want to puke up my Spagettios TM more than a panty wearing liberal is a hypocrite. Conveniently, PFT_128 is guilty of both crimes against sensibility.
A kazoo/d!ck blowing ALPO supporter, and one who personally gave $$ directly to management to SELFISHLY attain career goals above his level of experience and achievement.
He stands on high, in his mind anyway, tossing brickbats on the great unwashed pilots who fail to worship at the altar of a ONCE great union.
These are the same pilots who, out of a sense of self-respect and a desire to accomplish their career goals while retaining their moral compass, got where they are by paying their dues in the industry. PFT_128 preferred to skip that nastyness, and simply pay a SCAB INFESTED MANAGMENT TEAM AT GULFSTREAM ACADEMY DIRECTLY!
I would love for you to simply crawl back under the rock you were created under, you slimey strip of snail excrement. I know that this is not in your nature. You feel that you have so much to offer us po' ignent folk. So continue to show us your ass, you impotent child.

 

[Green]

Your wish is my command, MCDU.
The only thing that makes me want to puke up my Spagettios TM more than a panty wearing liberal is a hypocrite. Conveniently, PFT_128 is guilty of both crimes against sensibility.
A kazoo/d!ck blowing ALPO supporter, and one who personally gave $$ directly to management to SELFISHLY attain career goals above his level of experience and achievement.
He stands on high, in his mind anyway, tossing brickbats on the great unwashed pilots who fail to worship at the altar of a ONCE great union.
These are the same pilots who, out of a sense of self-respect and a desire to accomplish their career goals while retaining their moral compass, got where they are by paying their dues in the industry. PFT_128 preferred to skip that nastyness, and simply pay a SCAB INFESTED MANAGMENT TEAM AT GULFSTREAM ACADEMY DIRECTLY!
I would love for you to simply crawl back under the rock you were created under, you slimey strip of snail excrement. I know that this is not in your nature. You feel that you have so much to offer us po' ignent folk. So continue to show us your ass, you impotent child.

Tweaker....well you sure picked a fitting name for yourself. You need to relax before that rage gives you a heart attack. Take a deep breath, drink some green tea, pop a viagra and get laid......

 

[cactusboy53]

lets see, I proposed solutions that the East and West(according to your claims) could live with, and you retort with that.
A. You are being less than honest about the West desire for East positions.
B. you just want to cash that lottery ticket, to heck with everything and everybody else.
Nic is just as unfair to the East as doh without fences is to the West.
Fences would preserve both East and West "career expectations" as I outlined. Clearly you are not interested in anything fair that could move this along.
So again who is trying to steal who's job?

Sorry Dude;
To be completely accurate STAPLE is as UNFAIR as DOH. FINAL IS FINAL, AND BINDING IS BINDING.

 

[Tejas-Jet]

Is this little "tiff" still going on? Kids get punished for this kind of behavior

 

[eaglesview]

Is this little "tiff" still going on? Kids get punished for this kind of behavior

No they have a tantrum and send feces through the mail.

 

[cactusboy53]

We've just been informed that the named plaintiffs has risen to (I believe) 18, with 1-100 John Doe's listed as additional plaintiffs.

I was asked to forward the following is information regarding a trust that has been set up for the separately named LCC pilots being sued by USAPA:

AN URGENT APPEAL TO ALL AMERICA WEST PILOTS


As you know by now, the US Airline Pilots Association (“USAPA”) has filed a 49 page lawsuit against 16 former America West pilots who are now employed by US Airways in the United States District Court, Western District of North Carolina (Charlotte Division) claiming hundreds of thousands of dollars in damages. Other pilots have been identified in the lawsuit but have not been named as defendants.

USAPA intends to sue still other pilots. The lawsuit also refers to 100 John Does who also may be named as defendants. USAPA has pledged to take actions to change the seniority list produced by the Nicolau Panel and accepted by the Company to the detriment of former America West pilots.

As one of the named defendants targeted by USAPA, I have had to organize the financial defense of those not represented by AWAPPA.

Briefly, I was an Air Force pilot, Eastern Airlines pilot, and am currently a line Airbus captain. I have contributed hundreds of hours of my personal time, serving my Eastern and America West brothers and sisters on various committees and writing numerous reports and editorials. As a military and Eastern pilot, I learned to appreciate true professionalism, dedication, and commitment to each other. I suffered
through a devastating nine month strike “walking the line” at Eastern.

While everyone else sees the injustice of what is going on, we must defend ourselves! There ARE legitimate reasons why AWAPPA cannot represent us at this time. Therefore, we, the individual defendants must establish our own defense team and the cost may be high financially. The ten of us, “The Cactus 10”, who are not on the AWAPPA Board of Directors need your help! I have organized our legal defense with a highly regarded law firm in Phoenix and have
established a legitimate and accountable Trust Fund.

IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT ALL AWA PILOTS MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO REDUCE THEIR RISK TO ANY FUTHER CLAIMS!

Resources are limited and we must conserve manpower and monies necessary to defend those currently listed and those that will be added. Should anyone else be served or contacted by USAPA’S legal department, immediately contact me and our lead attorney, Lat Celmins (of Margrave & Celmins PC, 480-994-2000).

Individual contributions of $100 or greater are encouraged to help the pilots defend themselves. Contributions can be sent to: AWA Pilots Legal Expense Trust.

The funds will be placed in an account for this
purpose at the following address:

“AWA PILOTS LEGAL EXPENSE TRUST”
3626 WEST GLASS LANE
PHOENIX, ARIZONA 85041

PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS IS AN APPEAL FOR FINANCIAL HELP FROM THE INDIVIDUAL PILOTS SUED BY USAPA AND IS NOT IN ANY WAY ASSOCIATED WITH AWAPPA OR ITS OFFICERS OR DIRECTORS.

I hope you will realize how critical your financial support is to ALL of us. The company has abandoned us and we are all at risk. Just ask the sixteen of us and the others to come.

Sincerely,

Captain Ron Gabaldon

I realize that we all have a lot more stuff on our plates right now, but if any non-LCC pilots are interested in contributing to this fund it would be GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!

 

[eaglesview]

IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT ALL AWA PILOTS MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO REDUCE THEIR RISK TO ANY FUTHER CLAIMS!

Here's an idea, be a bit more selective when trying to decide what to send via US mail.

 

[BeCareful!]

Perhaps conducting yourselves professionally would be the best preventive measure.

 

[Ocity]

Perhaps conducting yourselves professionally would be the best preventive measure.

Who? The Scab union that has no integrity or the disenfranchised AWA pilots?