USAPA wins...Pilots lose

[jonjuan]

1st page....

Edit...Dammit, 2nd page....

 

[Captzaahlie]

Just out of curiousity could Airways pilots now not being ALPA put them in a weak postion if United were to merge or aquire them? Wouldnt that be a twist of irony, the second they vote out of the national union they are broadsided/stapled to the bottom of United!

The United pilots would never do that to their former AlPA brothers!
Would they????


So much for the the Alpa brotherhood......
When it came down to the very end it was always everyone looking out for their own a$$'s. The big Alpa pilot group would scope out the little Alpa pilot group. Inside the little Alpa pilot group the senior guys would screw the junior guys...... I could go on but I'd waste your time.
Face it the bottom line is that we as pilots are very independent and self reliant, thats what makes us pilots.

 

[Secret Squirrel]

Absolutely. If we merge again we could be in a weaker position, but well I think the Alg-Moh legislation will provide some coverage though....

It will guarantee arbitration, and you know how well East guys do with that.

 

[weasel_lips]

My sympathies to the AWA pilots. Burn the place to the ground. F--- uSAPa, and f--- anyone who voted for them.

It is people like you that got ALPA where it is today... GONE GONE GONE.

 

[weasel_lips]

The real question isn't about Nic, the question is how long until uSAPa is bankrupt. I don't give it too long.

More like ALPA... They just lost millions in dues money.... Can you say PAYCUT in Herndon?

 

[Doug Parker]

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Hey Weasil Tits,

How long till USAPA goes bankrupt fighting the lawsuits? Hope you enjoy the extra assessments!



F-USAPA



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[Bdfg1]

My sympathies to the AWA pilots. Burn the place to the ground. F--- uSAPa, and f--- anyone who voted for them.

I was dead set on keeping ALPA on the property. That is until you began to chime in. Thanks for changing my mind and voting ALPA out. You deserve a medal.

 

[weasel_lips]

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Hey Weasil Tits,

How long till USAPA goes bankrupt fighting the lawsuits? Hope you enjoy the extra assessments!



F-USAPA



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Who care's about all that....... ALPA is on it's way out industry wide. It will be the union of the RJs soon.

I just hope this follows industry wide. I would like to see the same outcome at my company.

 

[Uniform Shop]

Now that ALPA is off the property it could go to arbitration again. There is a federal law now that forces two party's to arbitration if both sides can't come to an agreement. This all came about with the TWA/AA deal. The days of just stapling one side is the thing of the past because of this law. I don't know how the East side can force DOH on the West side without going through arbitration again. You are still operating under two different contracts so you should have a good argument for third party arbitration.

We shall see.

 

[Secret Squirrel]

Now that ALPA is off the property it could go to arbitration again. There is a federal law now that forces two party's to arbitration if both sides can't come to an agreement. This all came about with the TWA/AA deal. The days of just stapling one side is the thing of the past because of this law. I don't know how the East side can force DOH on the West side without going through arbitration again. You are still operating under two different contracts so you should have a good argument for third party arbitration.

We shall see.

So you are saying that if someone has a judgement against me and I don't agree with it, than all I have to do is change lawyers because now I have different representation and I deserve a new trial? Good luck with that.
This is like watching a train wreck. There is so much blood. In the end you know someone will be dead, probably the whole airline.

 

[grog_sit_reserv]

The next questions I have are:
-Will ALPA still defend the Nic Award
-How long before a DFR lawsuit, any bets?

 

[Occam's Razor]

The dog has caught the car.

This next part oughta be very entertaining!

 

[Captzaahlie]

Now that ALPA is off the property it could go to arbitration again. There is a federal law now that forces two party's to arbitration if both sides can't come to an agreement. This all came about with the TWA/AA deal. The days of just stapling one side is the thing of the past because of this law. I don't know how the East side can force DOH on the West side without going through arbitration again. You are still operating under two different contracts so you should have a good argument for third party arbitration.

We shall see.

Thats an interesting point, I agree somebody will have to settle the argument and/or make the determination of how much precedence was established with the initial nic ruling.....

I predict this will take awhile not to mention it will be expensive as one lawyer after another drags this thing on and on!

 

[regionaltard]

The next questions I have are:
-Will ALPA still defend the Nic Award
-How long before a DFR lawsuit, any bets?

I don't know the answers to those questions, but I do know that the only people guaranteed to benefit from this fiasco are lawyers, airline managers and the folks who sell them the fine single-malt Scotch they'll be toasting USAPA with this evening. This is like the Sox standing out on the field watching a brawl in the Yankees' dugout.

I put the over/under for the duration of the litigation $hitstorm at 5 years, assuming that USAPA can keep itself solvent anywhere near that long.

 

[Captzaahlie]

The dog has caught the car.

This next part oughta be very entertaining!

I owe you a beer Razor!
:beer:

Thats the best analogy I have heard in a while..
Now whats the pooch going to do with the bumper?
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