USAPA wins...Pilots lose

[Lampshade]

Vote results:

ALPA - 2254

USAPA- 2723

Thanks to the 400 or so guys on the East for voting for ALPA, I guess you're all not dumb.

Good Luck everyone.

 

[Soulfly]

Boy is this place F&cked.....

 

[PCL_128]

My sympathies to the AWA pilots. Burn the place to the ground. F--- uSAPa, and f--- anyone who voted for them.

 

[Whine Lover]

Management is just sitting back licking their chops.

You are ALL now, "OFFICIALLY F-CKED".

Yay TEAM!

YKMKR

 

[HalinTexas]

What a nightmare.

 

[FDJ2]

You just can't unteach stoopid.

My sympathies to the West pilots.

 

[OPECJet]

Any guesses to what the excuse will be when the masses find out that the Nicolau award will stick?

 

[PCL_128]

The real question isn't about Nic, the question is how long until uSAPa is bankrupt. I don't give it too long.

 

[Sedona16]

Just out of curiousity could Airways pilots now not being ALPA put them in a weak postion if United were to merge or aquire them? Wouldnt that be a twist of irony, the second they vote out of the national union they are broadsided/stapled to the bottom of United!

 

[BoilerUP]

(17Apr2008) FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: Scott Theuer
April 17, 2008 US Airline Pilots Association
877-678-7272 x706


The US Airways Pilots vote for The US Airline Pilots Association as their new bargaining representative:

CHARLOTTE – The US Airways pilots voted for change today and have elected the US Airline Pilots Association (USAPA) to replace the Airline Pilots Association, Intl. (ALPA), as their new bargaining agent. The results of the election were announced by The National Mediation Board today at 2:00pm. The new union will collectively represent over 5,000 mainline US Airways pilots from the merger of US Airways and America West Airlines.

“The US Airways pilots have spoken for a change in union representation,” said USAPA interim President, Captain Stephen Bradford. “USAPA is ready on day one to begin a new era for all US Airways pilots, East and West. We will join the other great independent airline pilot unions on the national front, while our pilots enjoy single carrier union representation, solely focused on our pilots needs and fully accountable only to them.”

“In addition to providing quality services to the US Airways pilots, USAPA will approach management in a more businesslike fashion to address the deficiencies of the collective US Airways pilots’ contracts, both East and West; contracts which were originally accepted by the pilots during the hardships placed on the airlines during the post 9/11 era,” said Captain Bradford.

The US Airways pilots are one of the most senior and experienced pilot groups in the United States. We fly a large fleet of jet aircraft, including the Boeing B-737-300/400 and B-757/767 series, the Airbus A319/320/321 series, and the 266-seat Airbus A330.

US Airways pilots fly their passengers safely to more than 180 destinations, including Europe, Canada, Mexico, the Caribbean, Hawaii and in the near future, China.

USAPA represents over 5,000 US Airways pilots in seven domiciles across the United States.

 

[grog_sit_reserv]

Just out of curiousity could Airways pilots now not being ALPA put them in a weak postion if United were to merge or aquire them? Wouldnt that be a twist of irony, the second they vote out of the national union they are broadsided/stapled to the bottom of United!

Absolutely. If we merge again we could be in a weaker position, but well I think the Alg-Moh legislation will provide some coverage though....

 

[007]

Just out of curiousity could Airways pilots now not being ALPA put them in a weak postion if United were to merge or aquire them? Wouldnt that be a twist of irony, the second they vote out of the national union they are broadsided/stapled to the bottom of United!

That would be the definition of irony.....

 

[Soulfly]

"The US Airways pilots are one of the most senior and experienced pilot groups in the United States. We fly a large fleet of jet aircraft, including the Boeing B-737-300/400 and B-757/767 series, the Airbus A319/320/321 series, and the 266-seat Airbus A330."

"and we have crashed more airplanes than anyone else."

This is excluding the AWA pilot group.

Morons

 

[grog_sit_reserv]

For the East guys yeah... For the West guys it's a crime.

 

[Nevets]

April 17, 2008

US Airways Pilots Leave ALPA Fold
WASHINGTON—The National Mediation Board (NMB) today announced that the pilots at US Airways have voted to leave the Air Line Pilots Association, Int’l (ALPA) and form a separate union as their collective bargaining representative. There were 5,238 eligible pilot voters. Of them, 2,723 voted for the US Airline Pilots Association and 2,254 voted for ALPA.


“I want to thank all of the pilots who fought for their union and their futures during this tough campaign,” said Capt. John Prater, president of ALPA. “We were obviously hopeful that a majority of all US Airways pilots would make a different decision.”


The pilots who fly for the new US Airways flew previously for America West Airlines and US Airways and have operated under separate Master Executive Councils within the ALPA structure. A dispute among a number of US Airways pilots arose over an independent arbitrator’s decision regarding the pilots’ seniority, leading to a decertification effort and the NMB election.


“As an ALPA volunteer for nearly 20 years I have witnessed firsthand how ALPA has helped individual pilots by saving their careers and by saving lives. It’s going to be extremely difficult for me personally and professionally to watch what happens to this pilot group now,” said Capt. Jack Stephan, chairman of the US Airways pilot group. “Industry consolidation is inevitable, and the economy is slowing. I believe that these challenges will be too much to ask of an untested, under-funded union.”


Over the last year, ALPA and many pilots from both groups have worked hard to mutually resolve the pilots’ differences and make progress in negotiations with the company.
“We will not become victims of this unsuccessful merger,” said Capt. John McIlvenna, chairman of the America West pilot group. “The America West pilots are unified and will fight for fair representation in order to protect our careers and families.”


Founded in 1931, ALPA is the world’s largest pilot union and will now represent more than 56,000 pilots at 41 airlines in the U.S. and Canada.

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[jonjuan]

1st page....

Edit...Dammit, 2nd page....

 

[Captzaahlie]

Just out of curiousity could Airways pilots now not being ALPA put them in a weak postion if United were to merge or aquire them? Wouldnt that be a twist of irony, the second they vote out of the national union they are broadsided/stapled to the bottom of United!

The United pilots would never do that to their former AlPA brothers!
Would they????


So much for the the Alpa brotherhood......
When it came down to the very end it was always everyone looking out for their own a$$'s. The big Alpa pilot group would scope out the little Alpa pilot group. Inside the little Alpa pilot group the senior guys would screw the junior guys...... I could go on but I'd waste your time.
Face it the bottom line is that we as pilots are very independent and self reliant, thats what makes us pilots.

 

[Secret Squirrel]

Absolutely. If we merge again we could be in a weaker position, but well I think the Alg-Moh legislation will provide some coverage though....

It will guarantee arbitration, and you know how well East guys do with that.

 

[weasel_lips]

My sympathies to the AWA pilots. Burn the place to the ground. F--- uSAPa, and f--- anyone who voted for them.

It is people like you that got ALPA where it is today... GONE GONE GONE.

 

[weasel_lips]

The real question isn't about Nic, the question is how long until uSAPa is bankrupt. I don't give it too long.

More like ALPA... They just lost millions in dues money.... Can you say PAYCUT in Herndon?