USAPA: Downfall is coming from within!

[Bringupthebird]

Is one of the choices in the mock bid "wherever I can (upgrade, hold a line, get weekends off, not get furloughed...)? How can you bid if you don't know what the company's plans are? They're still a little involved in the lives of pilots, believe it or not.

 

[doh]

At least that guy is willing to brainstorm for solutions. You guys need some solutions. Best to all.

 

[captfred]

Vance needs to stick to flying airplanes. Mr Nicholai already provided an inclusive solution with bidding restrictions that have now been lifted by the age 65 retirement change. The airline accepted the new seniority list in Dec 2007 per the sworn deposition given by the VP-Human Resources.

 

[Metrojet]

Another Suggestion to end the mess:





Op/Ed Hosted by Unbiased Facts
June 12, 2009

We Can Solve This Ourselves



By Guest Writer Vance Osmon


Let me propose a simple three-step solution that may provide a face-saving way
out of our present difficulties:

Many East pilots are fearful that they will be displaced by West pilots transferring
to East domiciles if the Nicolau Award is implemented. Let’s test that theory by
conducting a non-binding and anonymous mock bid sponsored by the Company to
quantify how many pilots (both East and West) actually intend to transfer. Results
of the mock bid may reveal that most East and West pilots have no intention to
vacate their present domicile and would thereby render any fear of displacement
unjustified. If the Company is not interested in conducting a mock bid, let's do it
ourselves.

Establish a mechanism within USAPA that would “meter” the flow of pilots
requesting to transfer to an “acceptable” level for a reasonable period of time, say
one year. Such a mechanism would not be contractually binding on USAPA, or
the Company, but would be established to address any lingering concerns pilots
may have about displacement. Pilots who desire to relocate and agree to the
strictures imposed by the USAPA program would be entitled to receive certain
financial incentives (provided by USAPA, or possibly the Company) to cover a
reasonable amount of the cost of relocation.

Sponsor a “Unity Summit” hosted by USAPA that would bring together union
leadership and the rank-and-file to discuss the needs and concerns of all US
Airways pilots. The goal of the summit would be to adopt an organizational and
negotiating strategy that would unite our pilot group; discussions would be
facilitated by specialists in conflict resolution, ethical behavior, and organizational
development.

It is quite likely that USAPA will fail in its attempt to overturn the results of the
Addington decision and many of the East pilots with whom I speak with have
reluctantly come to this conclusion. They are now focused on the next step in the
process: negotiating an “industry-leading” contract. I believe that USAPA should
abandon its ill-conceived and expensive legal strategy to overturn the Nicolau
Award and turn its attention to the twin goals of negotiating a new contract and to




prepare our pilot group for the next airline merger. Adopting the proposal as stated
above, or developing a reasonable alternative, is, in my opinion, the best way for
USAPA to begin the process of healing old wounds and for charting a course for
our future success.


Regards,


Vance Osmon
PHX Airbus F/O
247072


So - you hold a mock bid - and say that you only have a few pilots who want to transfer as of the "mock bid". Then - the company decides in the future to downsize phx or las some more - there goes the mock bid results down the drain!

Is that why the west will not discuss a 10 year fence??? the answer please - YES

Metrojet

 

[TWA Dude]

Is that why the west will not discuss a 10 year fence??? the answer please - YES

If Nicolau thought a ten year fence was warrented he would've ordered one. That's why we won't discuss it.

 

[T2Bus]

At least that guy is willing to brainstorm for solutions. You guys need some solutions. Best to all.

DOH is right, we have to think outside of the box to fix this problem.

 

[TWA Dude]

I have an "outside of the box" idea: how about the people who created the problem fix the problem?

 

[jonjuan]

I have an "outside of the box" idea: how about the people who created the problem fix the problem?

Who created the seniority system?

 

[FDJ2]

The solution is to implement the Nicolau award by a date certain with or without a JCBA. Thuggery should not be rewarded.

 

[PCL_128]

Another ounce of false information. No union wants to deal with usapa? hmmm....interesting...

CAPA is a trade association comprised of over 28,000 professional pilots. CAPA's purpose is to address safety, security, legislative and regulatory issues affecting the professional flight deck crew member on matters of common interest to the individual member unions. The five members of CAPA are:

Union​

Airline ​

Allied Pilots Association (APA)
American
Independent Pilots Association (IPA)
UPS
Southwest Airlines Pilots Association (SWAPA)
Southwest
Teamsters Local 1224
ABX Air
US Airline Pilots Association (USAPA)
US Airways

Are you aware that the CAPA BOD debated for months upon months on whether to allow USAPA access because of the belief that USAPA existed for the sole purpose of raping the West pilots of their seniority? It was not an easy sell, and the BOD only made their decision when it became all too clear that CAPA was losing one of its member unions (NPA) to ALPA.

CAPA is struggling to survive. The APA provides an overwhelming majority of their funding because the other member unions simply can't afford it. In the past decade they have lost FPA, IACP, and NPA. IBT 1224 is hanging on by a thread. They needed someone to fill the void, and USAPA was the only group available. In the end, the CAPA BOD held their noses and let the stink that is USAPA join their little country club simply out of necessity. I wouldn't take it as a sign of support if I were you. No one outside of your little East bubble has any support for your immoral and unethical cause.

At least ALPA is gone.

Yeah, how's that going for them?