USAPA and the Domicile meeting for PHX/LAS

[Carl S.]

The West pilots can't even join USAPA till 30 days after the correction to their CBL's are changed! So no money is due till the new clock starts in early Dec. and then 90 days till Section 29 starts. The delay in the injuction/DFR case is taking longer than expected, but it only took 2 days to throw out the USAPA/RICO case with prejudice!

P.S.- Lots of twice bankrupt carriers have saved non- bankrupt carriers NOT! Look at the original SLI openers and see which one Nic. came in closer to.

 

[Bringupthebird]

So Be, What has USAPA actually accomplished? Take all the bandwidth you need.

 

[get2flyin]

So Be, What has USAPA actually accomplished? Take all the bandwidth you need.

Hey, even I can answer that...they've made Seeham, their lawyer, a very wealthy man.

 

[Fast43]

Good luck with the DFR suit. I think Doug put it to you pretty well in that last meeting. He made it very clear that USAPA is the union for pilots at US Airways; your choice to not let them represent you is just that: your choice.

Help me connect the dots here, what does what Doug have to say, have anything to do with the fact that usapa is not representing ALL LCC pilots fairly. What was it he "put to us"???? We know usapa is the legal CBA, maybe you can tell us when they will start acting like it.

Conditions and Restrictions.....you ought to look into them and get real about what you really deserve in this deal. With LAS and PHX looking at a 25% reduction in revenue, do you guys ever look in the mirror and wonder: "who saved who?" Once you stop your pompus giggle, think again about how many times East management had cried wolf about CH7 over that past two decades. The east coast is where the money is, and accountants have done a masterful job over the years of making sure that money ended up in the hands of the CEO, COO, CFO, CXO, CBO, CGO, every f-in CandO type other than the blue collar workers at this joint.



So, to be clear. You are saying that US Airways saved America West ? Do you really look in the mirror and believe that ??


Conditions and Restrictions...........The Judge did look into them and noted that they were a 100% win for the east and 100% loss for the west. Where was this info in the usapa summary of the court hearing? I guess you don't think we deserve much in this deal.


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[becket]

so long as they don't have to go fly the line under the s h i t t y contracts they allowed to get passed on to the membership.

You were ALPA. Your group voted in all deals. Your group of pilots is directly responsible for whatever QOL you have.

If you worked at Airways under the "parity plus 1" deal, (which I'm sure you did as I'm equally sure you're a 99 hire/6year furloughee),where was the outrage then? There was none. ALPA landed you an industry leading contract. Nobody hated ALPA at US Air until their own group voted away their pensions, work rules, and payrates. Then, after agreeing to binding arbitration, they "see the light".

Nobody entered into binding arbitration to set a "bargaining position", everybody knew it was for all the marbles...that's why you guys used your majority to throw a wrench in the system. It will work for awhile, but NIC will be the law of the land. I doubt the judge will want to set the precedent for all future arbitrations that the larger group gets a "do over' if it's not to their liking.


When that gets settled, you'll see West guys join the Union and actually try and get a contract. Until then, expect 1750 insurgents when forced, against their will and conscience to join your fake union.

Nothing you do, say, or threaten will ever change that. Nobody is scared of USAPA. The West doesn't negotiate with Terrorists. Here's a new bag sticker idea, "LOA 93 Till 2093"

Save your pennies...if you can.









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[PHXFLYR]

Ever notice how Be Careful never, ever responds to the tougher responses to his posts,or should I say rants ?? Thanks for trying to set the record straight Becket.


PHXFLYR

 

[m80drvr]

Ever notice how Be Careful never, ever responds to the tougher responses to his posts,or should I say rants ?? Thanks for trying to set the record straight Becket.


PHXFLYR

Same with MCDOOOOOOOSH. They spout off the same UCRAPA boilerplate talking points then don't respond with actual facts.

 

[BeCareful!]

The West pilots can't even join USAPA till 30 days after the correction to their CBL's are changed!

Carl S.,

Do you care to elaborate on this statement relative to the fact that there are over 500 West members right now?

 

[BeCareful!]

Ever notice how Be Careful never, ever responds to the tougher responses to his posts,or should I say rants ?? Thanks for trying to set the record straight Becket.


PHXFLYR

Yeah I just didn't jump on FI.com first thing Sunday morning, PHXFLYR. It's a character flaw.

I see no need in setting anything straight here. There is so much misinformation spewed on FI.com...why fight it?

I know, I know.....you think you have all the facts straight. So proud of ya! Fight on, TruthMeister!

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Same with MCDOOOOOOOSH. They spout off the same UCRAPA boilerplate talking points then don't respond with actual facts.

Remember the following when considering ANYTHING that MCDOOSH has to say:


Marty claiming to have started at US Air in 1997
http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?p=848465#post848411

Marty saying he doesn't even work for US Air.

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?p=848465#post848465

Marty saying he has nothing to do with the merger.

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?p=848322#post848322

Marty claiming to be a UAL pilot.

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?p=1224345#post1224345

MCDU:
One of Gulfstream international's best and just 1 airline strike away from his next job.