USAirways Furloughs

[Bringupthebird]

So the NMB issued a single carrier ruling on MDA and US?

So pilots from US could bid and be awarded Embraer positions and MDA pilots were not prohibited from bidding AB positions?

If you're basing your argument on what stock the paychecks are written on, ask a westy what it says on the top of his paycheck (but don't ask the amount; no one wants to see you cry).

 

[boxjockey]

The lack of maturity of the East posters on here is appalling. I can't believe the lows that you people stoop to. I know two USAir pilots, and both have been there for a very long time. I can't imagine either one of them ever acting the way you guys do. These threads truly do smack of adolescence. The pilots that I have met from the West, as well as the posters on here, seem to be about three developmental stages ahead of you guys. Take your blankies and play somewhere else.....

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[weasel_lips]

Yes, we should all strive to post like the westies!

Ahh, all is right with the world now.

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Sorry for your furlough. Hopefully you will be back sooner then later. The fact of age 65 has really put a speedbrake on all the movement we had here a year ago. 40 pilots a month were leaving before 65. Average age is still very high. Around 57.

M

WE? Really? That mouse in your pocket the one with you that you call WE???

Right HERE:

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?p=848465#post848465


you claim not to even work for US Airways.

PFT-MCDU----One airline strike away from his next airline job.

 

[Boeing747Driver]

Dude, I do not work for USAir.

Settle down
I guess u bit the bait.

Marty

Someone has a major integrity issue.

 

[xrated]

Nic is a total disregard of union principles.

Hey MCDUmmy,

At the time of the merger, DOH definately wasn't regarded as union principles. The only reason Nic came to the table was because of union policy and hense "principles". It was the East "guys" that had total disregard for the union (at the time) principles.

 

[cactusboy53]

We are still two pilot groups. No ione out West has a right to fly out East. You are like Mid Atlantic pilots. Trapped in your flying.

M

Not according to the NMB. Standby...I'm on my way out to PHL. I'll be starting a crash pad in Essington. Manditory requirement for occupants: Good attitude. Sorry, Marty...it doesn't look good for you so far.

 

[cactusboy53]

Iguess that means if we merge with a new partner while you are on furlough you will be put at the bottom of the list behind the new hires that are still on the east because you bring nothing to the merger.

How does it feel westie.

Peachie, since any new partner in recent discussions will likely forcea representation vote. Merger "discussions" on LCC's side START with FEDERAL FINAL AND BINDING ARBITRATION. Any bets on your side as to how your are viewed by the rest of the commercial aviation society??

ENTITLEMENT, IT'S NOT JUST FOR BREAKFAST ANYMORE:laugh: .

 

[surfnfly]

Peachie, since any new partner in recent discussions will likely forcea representation vote. Merger "discussions" on LCC's side START with FEDERAL FINAL AND BINDING ARBITRATION. Any bets on your side as to how your are viewed by the rest of the commercial aviation society??

ENTITLEMENT, IT'S NOT JUST FOR BREAKFAST ANYMORE:laugh: .

Hey Cactusboy, You clowns out west are real pros and well respected, flickin off other pilots as they do a walk around or shoulder checkin some guy in terminal. Think what you want. I've got numerous friends at SWA and they say you westies just can't shut the f#ck up when you ride on them. Get over it the Nic award is worth about as much as the toilet paper in the PHX terminal.

 

[Soulfly]

Hey Cactusboy, You clowns out west are real pros and well respected, flickin off other pilots as they do a walk around or shoulder checkin some guy in terminal. Think what you want. I've got numerous friends at SWA and they say you westies just can't shut the f#ck up when you ride on them. Get over it the Nic award is worth about as much as the toilet paper in the PHX terminal.

Really, that last time I rode on SWA, the captain asked to see my badge before he gave me the time of day.

He then saw my P# on the back of my badge. He then let into a tirade on how he would never let an "east" pilot ever ride on his jumpseat due to safety concerns.

And, you guys signed on the dotted line in regards to binding arbitration. It is a legal document, that the "East MEC" signed, so we'll see you in court.

You know, I did IOE for quite a few "east" guys during the J4J debacle. I am really disappointed.

 

[cactusboy53]

Hey Cactusboy, You clowns out west are real pros and well respected, flickin off other pilots as they do a walk around or shoulder checkin some guy in terminal. Think what you want. I've got numerous friends at SWA and they say you westies just can't shut the f#ck up when you ride on them. Get over it the Nic award is worth about as much as the toilet paper in the PHX terminal.

I can't speak for other Cactus pilots, but I don't flip off anyone (or do shoulder checks). What is do is smile and wave or say "hello". I do appreciate the support offered to former America West employees by all other pilots and other airline personnel.

We were a 'go-along-to-get-along" group largely. I do not force my opinion on anyone, but if asked I offer a thumb-nail sketch of what's going on. We are simply sick of the crap and amazed at what this process has turned into.

I don't have to worry about getting over the Nic decision, because it is sitting on Mr. Parker's desk. That document was delivered by ALPA, and accepted by Mr. Parker as within the confines of his requirements for a combined list.

 

[Turtle21]

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[vetrider]

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[LearLove]

I don't have to worry about getting over the Nic decision, because it is sitting on Mr. Parker's desk. That document was delivered by ALPA, and accepted by Mr. Parker as within the confines of his requirements for a combined list.

you actually think parker cares???

 

[Captzaahlie]

Dream on. Still trying to cash that lottery ticket.
Well that ticket went bye bye.

M

I don't think a number at US Airways could EVER be referred to as a 'lottery ticket.' What a joke... Your 30 year A330 captains make less than 5 year SWA captains. Some lottery ticket.......lol[/quote]

Very true, but working at US Airways is better than being a Mesa pilot, Walmart greeter, or being furloughed/collecting unemployment.......
one's perspective rapidly changes when you are trying to save the house and keep food on the table for your 2 and 5 year old.
Welcome to my new world....

Keep the Hatfield and McKoy (east/west) b1t(h fest going, I'm sure all it's doing a lot of good to help out those of us that are getting laid off..... (sarcasm implied).

I didn't choose which side of the Mississippi I got based on, I was told not that very long ago in indoc.
I figured I'd make the best of it and eventually relocate. I have many close friends on both the East and West side, but all you die hards need to just "grow the F up"! It amazes me to see grown men act like a bunch of high school kids... It really is time to pull your heads out of the "up lock position" and start working on a contract rather than fighting you fellow pilots. Why don't you shelve the "arbitrators ruling" for now since it's out of your hands and you are not a Judge (leave it for the next ruling and next bunch of attorneys that will get rich) and use this hostility and energy to fight the real enemy..... our screwed up management that thinks we can save the airline by charging $2 for a can of coke?
Doug has to love the infighting here because he will play you two groups for all it is worth.... secretly of course but he will. The longer we are at odds the longer he has the upper hand. It's a shame most of you will not realize it until it's too late......

 

[Captzaahlie]

Further furloughs on the east are on indefinite hold.

Any source on that??

Probably not....

 

[Captzaahlie]

It left active pilots with 17 years of service behind probation pilots. The east attrition belongs to East pilots.

M

I'm not trying to fight with you here MCDU but weren't those pilots on furlough? I don't necessarily agree with shi11ing on the furlough pilots because one of my closest (East) friends was in that group as I will be too. Hasn't that always been the policy with our "lovely" unions? The furlough pilots are not active so there fore they take it in the shorts?
I think your attrition comment will only be valid only until Parker can find way a way to integrate but that of course will be hundreds of thousands of dollars in attorneys fees and years away.....

Unless there is another bankruptcy before then.

 

[Captzaahlie]

Hey Cactusboy, You clowns out west are real pros and well respected, flickin off other pilots as they do a walk around or shoulder checkin some guy in terminal. Think what you want. I've got numerous friends at SWA and they say you westies just can't shut the f#ck up when you ride on them. Get over it the Nic award is worth about as much as the toilet paper in the PHX terminal.

Hey surfnfly there are hard core dou(hee bags on both sides..... and don't forget it!

 

[Captzaahlie]

Yes, we should all strive to post like the westies!

Ahh, all is right with the world now.

No but I think everyone should act like an adult and a so called "professional"....

 

[Captzaahlie]

Ok someone else can post here now ....I'm done.