USAirways Bid results

[abefly]

Keep telling yourselves THAT!! You boyz obviously have no clue at the east pilot's resolve. Merger talk is in the AIR, and the NIC will die a fast death. Ironic how the Frontier and AirTran fiasco has not taught the west anything??? When, and if, a merger is announced, PHX being the least common denominator, will be spun-off. Those of you shallow in Aviation history, research previous mergers and fragmentation. You will be enlightened.

Do you still believe in Santa Claus? Let me guess, Cleary told you he is real so you believe it. What a Moron. Do yourself a favor and stop messaging. You really are embarrassing yourself!

 

[B-atch]

Do you still believe in Santa Claus? Let me guess, Cleary told you he is real so you believe it. What a Moron. Do yourself a favor and stop messaging. You really are embarrassing yourself!

Do YOU??

 

[B-atch]

The WEST propaganda machine is at full throttle.. Someone has to post other than "YOUR" view. If insults is the best your class can muster, I've proven a point.
Have a Merry Christmas!!

 

[FMEpilot]

Soooo anyone on property hearing hiring numbers for 2012?

 

[B-atch]

250..Un-confirmed.

 

[Dornier 335]

Speaking of bids, any idea when the class dates will be for the Bus?

 

[Bringupthebird]

I'm all for the pay raise and contract improvements, but we can't accept the provision that makes pilots call scheduling after a trip to ask if they can go home.

You can log onto the scheduling program to check to see if there is another assignment. No need to ask anyone anything.

Please become informed before deciding what you will or will not accept. Heck, read the AWA contract.

 

[abefly]

The WEST propaganda machine is at full throttle.. Someone has to post other than "YOUR" view. If insults is the best your class can muster, I've proven a point.
Have a Merry Christmas!!

No propoganda here. The west is merely sitting back and waiting for the East to Implode. There is nothing we can do. You have the numbers to control everything remember. So if you want to be the lowest paid pilots in the industry for the rest of your career. So be it. You are the only ones who can change that. Not the west. When you voted alpa off property you took away all the rights of the west pilots.

Except for that darn Duty of Fair representation thing. Oh and the fact that the company said they only accepted the Nic and not a DOH list. Oh yeah, and how they believe anything other than the NIC is Illegal per RLA. Did you read the transcripts or are you going off emotion again?

 

[Crzipilot]

You can log onto the scheduling program to check to see if there is another assignment. No need to ask anyone anything.

Please become informed before deciding what you will or will not accept. Heck, read the AWA contract.

So if your out on the last day of a 3 day or 2 day. Doing your 3-5 legs, and your on the home stretch, last leg to PHX. When you block in, do you simply grab your bags, hit the employee lot and drive home?!?!? Or is there the possibility that there is a surprise when that door opens, and your actually swapping to a different airplane for a new overnight? Can that happen on a 4 day trip? On duty all night trip? etc?

For those that are on the east, there is the outside remote possibility that a CP is sitting in the jetway assigning you to another turn or leg to an outstation. But 99.99% of the time time. Last leg in, and you head home, with the possibility worst case of not blocking out for at least 18 hours maybe even longer, so a few adult beverages are possible in that string of 5 days of RSV....

So how's it work over there?>

 

[Lampshade]

You could read the West contract on the company website and get informed or past bs around sounding like a dope, your choice.

 

[Bringupthebird]

You are available for either a 4-day or 5-day block of reserve days. Unless they run out of reserves you will likely fly your trip and go home. If they run out and you are doing a day-trip on the front of 5 days of availability, you may get tagged. This doesn't happen very often due to the need to confirm the connection of the crew. It's a better bet for the scheduler to call out a fresh reserve that risk one arriving late or timing out.

For commuters a tag beats buying a night in a hotel. While I might not like some of the reserve provisions in the contract, the schedulers know the contract and I haven't had any real issues with them. The 4 and 5 day limitations are the real issue, not tagging.

 

[cactusboy53]

PIT, STL, MCI, LAS, BWI, LGA, BOS...You get the point. Today's economy is tomorrows obsolescence. Airline business plans change on a weekly basis. Pilots careers are ball and chain attached to these.

The sky is falling! The sky is falling! Dude; Phoenix is the SIXTH most populated city in the US. Also has one of the largest metropolitan areas by population. KPHX is one of the TEN busiest airports in the nation for passenger traffic with a $90 million daily economic impact. On a typical day:

• More than 1,200 aircraft arrive and depart
• More than 100,000 passengers arrive and depart
• More than 600 tons of air cargo is handled

I find it amazing that just because there has been discussion to move SOME aircraft /flights to CLT/PHL bases if/when we get a joint contract, you have somehow managed to make this into a base closure. Are you really that obtuse, or are you perhaps following direction from USAPA /Cleary??


You do REALIZE that the home office for the airline is in (or at least near) Phoenix??


Dean Wormer's advice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK-Dqj4fHmM

 

[Crzipilot]

HAHA, Ask PIT how that worked out for them.......just sayin'....

 

[Crzipilot]

You could read the West contract on the company website and get informed or past bs around sounding like a dope, your choice.

Your choice to be a flaming (insert whatever you like here) as my question was an actual one.. If you notice the inquiry as to how it worked over there. yes I could read the contract, and interpret how ever I chose to do so, which is probably where some of your proclaimed BS is coming from, as there are little nuances between how a contract is administered and what is actually written in the text.

For the response after yours, Thank you...

 

[Crzipilot]

You are available for either a 4-day or 5-day block of reserve days. Unless they run out of reserves you will likely fly your trip and go home. If they run out and you are doing a day-trip on the front of 5 days of availability, you may get tagged. This doesn't happen very often due to the need to confirm the connection of the crew. It's a better bet for the scheduler to call out a fresh reserve that risk one arriving late or timing out.

For commuters a tag beats buying a night in a hotel. While I might not like some of the reserve provisions in the contract, the schedulers know the contract and I haven't had any real issues with them. The 4 and 5 day limitations are the real issue, not tagging.

thanks for the explanation, how 'bout the idea of trashing both reserve systems, and coming up with something livable?