USAIR Capt denies JS to SWA commuter!

[canyonblue]

I haven't ever had any problems with anyone.

I know of one of our PIT commuters that wanted to ride USAirways out of PIT one day, and was basically told the same thing. Isolated events, isolated idiots.

 

[Wiskey Driver]

Last Friday I was informed by the agent at BWI that the 757 Capt had informed him he didn't want any Southwest pilots in his Jumpseat. The agent told me this as he informed me not to worry because he had a seat in the back (he thought the Capt meant he didn't want them on the flight deck). However after going onboard to say hello and giving the lead FA my ID she entered the flight deck and just behind her was the agent with the final paperwork. I overheard the Capt giving the agent hell and telling him he had usurped his powers as a capt in allowing a JS. The agent came back out and told me to take a seat in the back. I assumed he was relaying this from the Capt. Today I returned to BWI and talked to the agent. He informed me the Capt didn't want any SWA people on his aircraft period. I am posting this not to flame USAIR. They have always been great host. I would like any USAIR commuters who read this to have a little conversation with this Capt(email, letters, phone call, etc) about his past and future actions. I am not posting his name here but will be glad to supply it if you contact me direct via email here.

I am certain that this is a disgruntled east captain and it I apologize to all the SWA pilots out there. We in the west DO NOT SUPPORT this type of BULL at all. You guys are always welcome on USWEST. Again I apologize.

WD.

 

[weasel_lips]

Be a professional and take the next flight. Then talk to your JS coordinator.

Threatening to give his name out to whomever emails you is tasteless and cowardly.

Is the new procedure going to be “If you don’t let me ride jumpseat, I am going to post your name on flightinfo.com”?

It is a privilege not a right.

 

[Shrek]

This guy is obviously the rare exception, if the PIT-PHL Usair commuters find out what his name is they'll probably throw him a blanket party. Southwest helps many commuters get to PHL and back.

DUDE.........you should be on the SWAN TV makeover show WOW

 

[J and E's Daddy]

The only time I have ever been denid a JS is because either it was aleay taken with a full fligh, or the carrier wasn't CASS and the flight was full. This should be forwarded to your JS coordinator and not posted up here. Let the coordinators hash it out. CAs I encounter, whether being nice or not, have always been accomodating especially since lives and domiciles have been uprooted, more and more of us are being forced to commute.

 

[Frap]

Last Friday I was informed by the agent at BWI that the 757 Capt had informed him he didn't want any Southwest pilots in his Jumpseat. The agent told me this as he informed me not to worry because he had a seat in the back (he thought the Capt meant he didn't want them on the flight deck). However after going onboard to say hello and giving the lead FA my ID she entered the flight deck and just behind her was the agent with the final paperwork. I overheard the Capt giving the agent hell and telling him he had usurped his powers as a capt in allowing a JS. The agent came back out and told me to take a seat in the back. I assumed he was relaying this from the Capt. Today I returned to BWI and talked to the agent. He informed me the Capt didn't want any SWA people on his aircraft period. I am posting this not to flame USAIR. They have always been great host. I would like any USAIR commuters who read this to have a little conversation with this Capt(email, letters, phone call, etc) about his past and future actions. I am not posting his name here but will be glad to supply it if you contact me direct via email here.

Assumed he was relaying this from the Captain?? Uh, what??

I hope I'm mis-interpreting your post (it's certainly possible), but did you really do the Captain end-around and take a seat w/o introducing yourself and asking for a ride? It is indeed HIS jumpseat to give, be it in the front or the back--not the gate agent's.

And it doesn't appear that the Boss even talked to you, so you can't complain to your j/s committee about disrespectful treatment in front of family, employees or passengers. In fact, if he hadn't verbally singled out WN guys, I don't believe you would have any recourse at all.

Look, I'm all for helping to get as many guys home as possible. Just be respectful of the fact that it's the Captain's jumpseat (toolbag status notwithstanding) and only the Captain's and he does not have to give it to anybody.

 

[stagger]

jumpseat

please post the day and flight number so this numb nutted dude can be spoken to

 

[capt. megadeth]

Seems to me that the Capt would get in a bit of trouble for not having a good reason for not allowing you to JS.

Everybody freaks out about captain's authority being degraded these days but then when he/she uses it.....everybody freaks out. Albeit, the captain may have been a d!ck and have had no good reason to deny SWA pilots the jumpseat, but the bottom line is this.....The captain doesn't need a reason to deny a jumpseat. It's is the captain's jumpseat. Period. By trying to get the guy in trouble is further degrading captain's authority.

 

[airlinepilot]

All the info has been sent to the JS coordinator at SWA. I know there are a good number of Philly crewmembers that use us (SWA) to get from Pitt to Philly.....Those are the guys and gals I want to have a word with the 757 capt. Those are the people who need to know what he is doing. Philly is his Dom.

As for your comments Weasal Lips...I take exception...there is nothinig cowardly about telling the truth...he made a decision and was very vocal in doing so. Now he needs the peer pressure of those USAIR commuters that also rely on the good faith of SWA among others to get to work. I didn't post his name here because not everyone needs the info...but I think his peers deserve to know. He will respond much quicker to them than anyone else.

 

[airlinepilot]

Not so fast capt. megadeth

Not using authority correctly or misuing it is what weakens real authority because then others have to get involved to make sure that the Capt knows how to correctly apply his authority. Additionally....this was not just a case of the an actual JS in the cockpit...it was allowing commuters in the back where there were open seats. Misure of authority is one reason we have so much oversight....because there is always that 10%.......that needs it.