USAIR 1549 FA story b.s.

[Flyin2low]

I liked when they were interviewing passengers on Larry King or some show like that and the passenger said that Doreen was in the life raft before the passenger got out to it. How does the rear F/A get out the front exit before a passenger in 22A?

 

[Colonel Savage]

I liked when they were interviewing passengers on Larry King or some show like that and the passenger said that Doreen was in the life raft before the passenger got out to it. How does the rear F/A get out the front exit before a passenger in 22A?

She opens the rear door?

Oh, wait...

 

[Bullitt]

It was a glitch!! A technical malfunction! Why won't anyone believe me!?

Thats awesome! I love that movie :beer:

 

[zonker]

Great movie, but they did a hatchet job on Gus. Heh heh...

He didn't blow the hatch.

[FONT=arial,helvetica]"We cannot prove what happened. It was an unexplained anomaly. But we know that Grissom did not blow the hatch," Guenter Wendt, the man who helped Grissom board his Mercury capsule 39 years ago, told SPACE.com.[/FONT]

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http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/missions/liberty_bell_000617.html
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[lowlycfi]

Chuck Yeager said it best:

"Monkeys? You think a monkey knows he's sittin' on top of a rocket that might explode? These astronaut boys they know that, see? Well, I'll tell you something, it takes a special kind of man to volunteer for a suicide mission, especially one that's on TV. Ol' Gus, he did all right."

 

[Little_Bill]

Wasn't Guenter Wendt the German scientist that wanted to send the "ghimp" into space first?

Which of course leads us to..

"What in the hell is a ghimp?"

"A ghimp senator, a ghimpanzee"

 

[Metrojet]

Yeah, true, but ever tried to look out those tiny portholes? They show very little - and it looks distorted like a fish-eye lens. I don't know if I could tell whether by looking or not it was water. BUT, the big splash and sudden acceleration might cue me in.

To me - the big problem, if this is true, is that she lied for 3 months about it. I think that if she had said up front that she had made a mistake and opened the door on her own, it would of been a minor detail in the whole incident. Everyone would be impressed they made it out alive - now, the excitement over the flawless landing has subsided and now we can focus on the "lying FA".

Wow -

I know everyone here is very detailed and disciplined - part of the pilot profile - but give the lady a break.
I have seen pictures of the aft jump-seat - and right underneath it - when the aft pressure bulkhead was ruptured from the impact it drove what looks like a 2 X 4 from under the cabin floor right up into the cabin about 1 foot and very near her jump-seat. She was very lucky and that is probably what might have cut her leg. Be grateful for the outcome - and I am sure no one who reads these messages would have wanted to trade seats with her or anyone on that plane that day.

My two cents -
Metrojet

 

[Benjamin Dover]

Wow -

I know everyone here is very detailed and disciplined - part of the pilot profile - but give the lady a break.
I have seen pictures of the aft jump-seat - and right underneath it - when the aft pressure bulkhead was ruptured from the impact it drove what looks like a 2 X 4 from under the cabin floor right up into the cabin about 1 foot and very near her jump-seat. She was very lucky and that is probably what might have cut her leg. Be grateful for the outcome - and I am sure no one who reads these messages would have wanted to trade seats with her or anyone on that plane that day.

My two cents -
Metrojet

Despite whatever emotional trauma you might have gone through, you still shoud tell the truth. Instead she fabricates the story about the pax rushing by her to try to open the door. .

Like someone else said earlier, given the circumstances and lack of information about ditching, there would have been no issue if she just said, "tried the door, water came in, realized we had ditched, and directed everyone forward"

That would have been perfect, and now I might not even think poorly of her even with the "no uniform" deal.

I don't care what photo's look like. She lied because she thought she needed to cover her as$, plain and simple. No break from me ...

 

[Nindiri]

How do we know the passenger was telling the truth about her? I mean, he is a lawyer.

Is there any other evidence besides the word of a lawyer looking for someone to sue?

 

[Amish RakeFight]

I've got a four letter word for her that start with a C and ends with a T. So clearly evident in the 60 mins. interview. Glad the truth came out. She was a huge blemish on the crew during that interview, IMO. What a disgusting crewmember who will be out for a pay days as well. Wasn't she the FA who sustained some injuries?

 

[Metrojet]

I've got a four letter word for her that start with a C and ends with a T. So clearly evident in the 60 mins. interview. Glad the truth came out. She was a huge blemish on the crew during that interview, IMO. What a disgusting crew member who will be out for a pay days as well. Wasn't she the FA who sustained some injuries?

Amish -

I am not condoning lying - but at the same time maybe she had been experiencing post traumatic stress - and maybe she believed what happened is how she told the story - As you know - many people can tell a different story from having the same experience.

Glad your so understanding - its not like she committed a felony with intent - she was in an airplane that was in the air for six minutes and the next thing you know your opening up a cabin door with water gushing in.

Metrojet

 

[PropPiedmont]

I bet she's believed a lot of things have happened in her life that haven't.

 

[C-150ETOPS]

In failing to adhere to standards of performance, I'll hold Sully to a higher standard for failing to notify the FA's of a water landing than an FA failing to look out a peephole and seeing water. They're taught to look for fire, not for barges and ferrys. Any of you experts here want to guess how clear the distinction between the flatness of the typical airport looks compared to the calm flat calm Hudson when looking out the door window, especially when under stress?

No emergency is handled perfectly, they all survived, it was traumatic for all including her in the back. It may have been hectic enough for her in back to actually believe it happened.

She didn't impress me either. Then again, she didn't "lock up" and freeze. Her crime seems to be doing to much to open the door to let passengers get out.

 

[The Prussian]

Just suppose for a moment that she had been tired of the bag drag routine for quite some time...and then suddenly... her golden opportunity presented itself...!!

 

[runwayjockey]

Open skies, TSA harassment, Terrorist plots, Furloughs. I can think of a few more things to get worked up and pissed off about that are by far more important than some FA that may have lied to the FAA. Who really gives a $h!t?

 

[samballs]

Wow -

I know everyone here is very detailed and disciplined - part of the pilot profile - but give the lady a break.
I have seen pictures of the aft jump-seat - and right underneath it - when the aft pressure bulkhead was ruptured from the impact it drove what looks like a 2 X 4 from under the cabin floor right up into the cabin about 1 foot and very near her jump-seat. She was very lucky and that is probably what might have cut her leg. Be grateful for the outcome - and I am sure no one who reads these messages would have wanted to trade seats with her or anyone on that plane that day.

My two cents -
Metrojet

I'll trade seats with her. She sat in a seat landed in the water, opened a door underwater, went on tv and lied, the crew hates her, and she will make more money from this lie than I will for the next ten years.

 

[Benjamin Dover]

Glad your so understanding - its not like she committed a felony with intent - she was in an airplane that was in the air for six minutes and the next thing you know your opening up a cabin door with water gushing in.

Metrojet

Metro

How can you go on defending this hag? She LIED to NTSB, FAA, her company, her crew, and of course all the media. This was not due to a blow to the head or PTS syndrome- she is a calulating "you know what" with her own agenda. Don't you think she got lawyered up from day one hence the fat-lady pantsuit rather than her uniform?
Did you watch any interviews with the crew? If you did, and you still defend her now after her fantasy story is exposed, then only one explanation I can think of - you're boning her

BD

 

[Colonel Savage]

- you're boning her

OK, now that's a little below the belt even for Flight Info. Good God, man, I think an apology is in order here.

So say we all?

 

[J.Otto]

she seems a little schizo to me.

 

[KigAir]

Any of you experts here want to guess how clear the distinction between the flatness of the typical airport looks compared to the calm flat calm Hudson when looking out the door window, especially when under stress?

I would think that a landing in the Hudson would sound different than a landing at a typical airport.

 

[C-150ETOPS]

I would think that a landing in the Hudson would sound different than a landing at a typical airport.

I think Sully called "Brace for Impact" on the PA.

To a FA, I think that means a potential violent landing. Given the fact the lower belly was ripped to shreds a few feet below her jumpseat, do you think there's a chance a violent open field gear up landing on land might not sound much different from the violent landing in the Hudson?:erm:

 

[Benjamin Dover]

I think Sully called "Brace for Impact" on the PA.

To a FA, I think that means a potential violent landing. Given the fact the lower belly was ripped to shreds a few feet below her jumpseat, do you think there's a chance a violent open field gear up landing on land might not sound much different from the violent landing in the Hudson?:erm:

150,

Just like Metro, how you can guys give this bitter, senior, looking for her own pay-day out of this deal, FA a free pass on the issue I started this thread with - INTEGRITY! I could give a sh!t that she failed to look through the peep-hole before trying the door in the heat of the moment.

I care a lot that she completely made up this "female pax" story to cover her as$ because she thought she needed too. THAT is the issue. All this "what did it feel like", "what did Sully say" stuff is nonsense and has nothing to do with the point of this thread - her story was b.s. - she lied. And worse, it was not a heat of the moment "did not" lie; her story was a well thought out, some time to think on it completely fabricated story. Her agenda was CYA and dollar signs, and yet some on here defend her. Sad.

 

[Metrojet]

OK, now that's a little below the belt even for Flight Info. Good God, man, I think an apology is in order here.

So say we all?

Hi Colonel:

Thanks for coming to my rescue -

Metrojet

 

[Sandhawk]

Just like Metro, how you can guys give this bitter, senior, looking for her own pay-day out of this deal, FA a free pass on the issue I started this thread with - INTEGRITY! I could give a sh!t that she failed to look through the peep-hole before trying the door in the heat of the moment.

Unfortunately, Ben Dover, INTEGRITY is something that is lacking in all facets of the USAirways East Operation............

:smash:

 

[SLUF4]

I always thought something seemed a little off with her, but I'm not sure who to believe in this situation. We need more evidence before we go burning her at the stake. Now, if she's lying she deserves some sort of punishment

 

[Colonel Savage]

...We need more evidence before we go burning her at the stake...

You mean like a witch hunt?

 

[Colonel Savage]

Hi Colonel:

Thanks for coming to my rescue -

Metrojet

Glad to oblige. That dude was waaay out of line. If he was any kind of gentleman he would appologize.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

I'd imagine that pie is bone dry. Some people purchase peanut butter by the case.

 

[C-150ETOPS]

BD,

Give it a rest. I'll I said is "she is what's she is". Spare me the integrity lecture as if she living under the honor code of a Military Academy. She, as well as any other Major airline crew, have been "done" by enough airline execs and Wall street gurus enough to make Wilt Chamberlin look like a nun.
As I said, no emergency is handled perfectly. If a special I just saw is accurate, the forward FA ordered a pax out the door and into the water without a life jacket. Shall we crucify her as well? Did she lie about it? I could care less. They are FA's, nothing more. Everybody lived in the end.

I'll see what she says to the NTSB under oath. She'll retire, and get some cash. Hopefully (but it won't) it would come out of the pockets of those who decided that terminal radar to detect birds wasn't needed. If they can radar some dingbat chicks toolbag in orbit as well as the origin of sniper bullets in combat, they can get a return off an overweight condo duck in formation near a departure corridor.

 

[Benjamin Dover]

Glad to oblige. That dude was waaay out of line. If he was any kind of gentleman he would appologize.

Savage,

You're killing me man - if you could not figure out that my comments about boning that old hag were TIC than you've got other issues.

BD