USA Pilot Pay Restored

[pilotyip]

Good business allows the company to restore pay to the pre-reduction levels. Pay below shows F/O and Capt pay for the average USA Jet DA-20 pilots versus the competition and hours flown.

Pay compare ON DEMAND DA-20 Captain
Hrs.USA Jet.Cherry Air.Kalitta.Ameristar
0....$ 4,821 $ 2,000 $ 1,680 $ 3,000
10..$ 4,821 $ 2,520 $ 2,220 $ 3,000
20..$ 4,821 $ 3,040 $ 2,760 $ 3,000
30..$ 4,821 $ 3,560 $ 3,300 $ 3,150
40..$ 4,821 $ 4,080 $ 3,840 $ 3,550
50..$ 4,821 $ 4,600 $ 4,380 $ 3,950
60..$ 4,821 $ 5,120 $ 4,920 $ 4,350
70..$ 5,191 $ 5,640 $ 5,460 $ 4,750
80..$ 5,933 $ 6,160 $ 6,000 $ 5,150
90..$ 6, 675 $ 6,680 $ 6,540 $ 5,550
100.$7,417 $ 6,834 $ 7,200 $ 7,080

Pay compare ON DEMAND DA-20 FO
Hrs USA Jet Cherry Air Kalitta Ameristar
0....$ 2,850 $ 1,500 $ 1,050 $ 2,000
10..$ 2,850 $ 1,720 $ 1,250 $ 2,000
20..$ 2,850 $ 1,940 $ 1,450 $ 2,000
30..$ 2,850 $ 2,160 $ 1,650 $ 2,075
40..$ 2,850 $ 2,380 $ 1,850 $ 2,275
50..$ 2,850 $ 2,600 $ 2,050 $ 2,475
60..$ 2,850 $ 2,820 $ 2,250 $ 2,675
70..$ 3,070 $ 3,040 $ 2,450 $ 2,875
80..$ 3,509 $ 3,260 $ 2,650 $ 3,075
90..$ 3,947 $ 3,480 $ 2,850 $ 3,275
100.$ 4,386 $ 3,700 $ 3,050 $ 3,475

 

[knight]

Okay master of confusion. Does this mean that our pay WILL be restored if business is good and we are able to fly over our reduced quarantee hours .

Or our origional pay is given back as of today?

 

[pilotyip]

Effective Sunday 8-7 old guarentee and days off will be restored, it that confusing?

 

[USA Jet Pilot]

Well is this long term or is this a temporary pay restoration?...I am hopefully assuming at least till next May..or possibly longer. Any way Momma will be happy.

 

[Freight Dawg]

Congrats USA Jet dudes hopefully USA dude is right and this will long term.

 

[On Your Six]

How far afield do your Falcons fly? Ad-hoc obviously implies on-demand and probably anywhere, but do they routinely fly the four-corners of the US or do they fly to certain destinations more than others (e.g., to the locations with major auto plants)? Any nice tropical locations? Just curious.

 

[pilotyip]

90% of our flying is in the auto corridor, which is 500 miles either side of a line from MMMX to CYYZ

 

[Wankel7]

Great to hear it guys!

The flying sure has picked up this month / last month!

Chrysler has been shipping like crazy...their truck sales are up almost 30%!!!

 

[MissKittyKat]

I;m so happy for you guys, my x is there, please feel free to pm me! And I will introduce myself! I wish you pilots the best! It is a small world, my x is on the dc9 Captain.

Keeping my fingers crossed! Heck I know you guys do a lot of friegt to lorado and other places. Wishing you the best! You just need lots of contracts!

(support american made cars!) PLEASE!

mY BEST

 

[Xfr8dog]

Miss Kitty Kat,


How many times have I told you, I'm not at USAJet anymore! Its Kalitta now.

 

[Wankel7]

(support american made cars!) PLEASE!

mY BEST

Ah, don't forget Honda (Ohio plants) and Nissan (KMQY)

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

USAJet mostly flies to the 48 states, Mexico and Eastern Canada. Sometimes we fly further afield, usually Central America, the Islands, or Western Canada.

My last trip was MFE-MMSP-LRD-LIT-ORF-YIP.

Have a great day!

Cliff
YIP

PS-They had my fuel stop originally scheduled for TCL, but then they figured out I was a Plainsman, so they knew I didn't want to set foot there. War Eagle!

 

[Wankel7]

Yeah, things are picking up...we just got done with an Active Aero trip....

That was for GM

DAY-CYHM-MEM-MMIO-LRD....

Woot

 

[VABB]

Qol

Ah yes, the good life at USAJet.

So, are these wages going to be here for a while, or is the payscale going to continually act like the stock market; up today, down tomorrow.

According to Randy you can really rake in some serious dough at the expense of flying 100 hours per month.

Let's all do something that is the equivalent of a good 'ol fashioned KYIP group hug. For all of those who drive to YIP to go fly, let's all embrace and let out a collective "this place sux!!"

I miss Zantop!! Well, not really. They were trash too, just a little ahead of their time.

 

[Sameold]

Pay "experiments"

Pay compare ON DEMAND DA-20 Captain
Hrs.USA Jet.Cherry Air.Kalitta.Ameristar
0....$ 4,821 $ 2,000 $ 1,680 $ 3,000
10..$ 4,821 $ 2,520 $ 2,220 $ 3,000
20..$ 4,821 $ 3,040 $ 2,760 $ 3,000
30..$ 4,821 $ 3,560 $ 3,300 $ 3,150
40..$ 4,821 $ 4,080 $ 3,840 $ 3,550
50..$ 4,821 $ 4,600 $ 4,380 $ 3,950
60..$ 4,821 $ 5,120 $ 4,920 $ 4,350
70..$ 5,191 $ 5,640 $ 5,460 $ 4,750
80..$ 5,933 $ 6,160 $ 6,000 $ 5,150
90..$ 6, 675 $ 6,680 $ 6,540 $ 5,550
100.$7,417 $ 6,834 $ 7,200 $ 7,080

Pay compare ON DEMAND DA-20 FO
Hrs USA Jet Cherry Air Kalitta Ameristar
0....$ 2,850 $ 1,500 $ 1,050 $ 2,000
10..$ 2,850 $ 1,720 $ 1,250 $ 2,000
20..$ 2,850 $ 1,940 $ 1,450 $ 2,000
30..$ 2,850 $ 2,160 $ 1,650 $ 2,075
40..$ 2,850 $ 2,380 $ 1,850 $ 2,275
50..$ 2,850 $ 2,600 $ 2,050 $ 2,475
60..$ 2,850 $ 2,820 $ 2,250 $ 2,675
70..$ 3,070 $ 3,040 $ 2,450 $ 2,875
80..$ 3,509 $ 3,260 $ 2,650 $ 3,075
90..$ 3,947 $ 3,480 $ 2,850 $ 3,275
100.$ 4,386 $ 3,700 $ 3,050 $ 3,475

Lets assess pay now that it has been "restored" (by the way Uncle Ray's memo almost brought a tear to my eye.) Basically USAJ DA20 pilots falls back in line to be the second worst paid behind Ameristar for an average month, and well behind pay at top dog Cherry Air. For the DC9, it is the worst pay of any 9 operators out there period. Go 7 miles down the street and the USAJ Capts are on the FO pay scale. Or you can sell all your days down the toilet and make a respectable wage, but you can’t have both. The average 4th yr Airtran FO has 14days off a month and banks 70K (but there are very few 4th yr Airtran FO’s b/c their Capts on average making 107K with a min guarantee of 94K.) The DC-9 is a mainline narrow body a/c not an RJ.

Yet USAJ management is not done tinkering. Just how can guarantee be lowered? They want a pay scale like Cherry but don't have a business plan like Cherry (not volume.) Ah yes the answer! Pay per day! Folks this should read like a viagra commercial where all the benefits are read slowly and with excitement, yet it ends with a speed talking shallow voice and all you can hear is “may result in blindness.”

Me thinks *disclaimer, this "me thinks" excerpt does not represent the collective pilot group or management of USAJ as a whole* that pay per day will bring the out of touch upper managements crystal ball (aka projection) more closely into the pilots lives. Bids come out for a busy month, every line is made up of lines with only 8 days off! PAY DAY! Then for the slow month it comes out with 14 days off! Uh oh, can't pay my alimony and my mortgage, sorry kids! I think this will take stability out of the QOL, and then lean the ranks (which a pay cut was just taken to keep everyone and let the nature of attrition take its course.)

Like a previous poster said, its like a pay scale tied to the stock market... Bad idea! Its time to get a Union on the property so you can have a voice in representing yourself as the other people discuss your pay and work rules. It is time to have a voice at USAJ! Or stick with the current way of life: A memo comes out or a meeting is called to announce the new management idea that directly affect the pilots. Then there are sour grapes, a few go to the CP's office, others to Randy, and then there is a pilot meeting where there is more complaining. Talk is cheap, and that is all the USAJ pilots have. Get representation NOW!